Yep Bob K3DJC
On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 19:58:01 -0400 Michael Walker <va...@portcredit.net> writes: > Jim sort of nailed it. > > :) > > Mike va3mw > > On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 4:59 PM, Fred Moore <f...@fmeco.com> wrote: > > > Jim please accept my apologies, I didn't realize that since you > have > > written extensively on the subject and actually had a website that > no > > one else is allowed to comment without being chastised for > contributions. > > > > I have made myself a note to never reply to any conversation you > are > > currently or could possibly become involved in , as all > authoritative > > answers have already been provided on your web site.. and > absolutely > > nothing else ever need be discussed. > > > > and again I must disagree with you. when you state that > > > > "I think what you view as disagreement is my failure to write well > enough." > > > > you write extremely well, your condescending attitude comes > through very > > clear, to everyone. > > > > Still wondering if I should remove all of my links on the > internet, as I > > now realize I only need one. > > > > again, please accept my apologies.. I will make every attempt to > make > > sure it never happens again. > > > > Fred Moore > > email: f...@fmeco.com > > wd8...@gmail.com > > phone: 321-217-8699 > > > > On 6/10/17 4:36 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > > > On Sat,6/10/2017 12:39 PM, Fred Moore wrote: > > >> Jim, lets stop talking about grounds totally when dealing with > RF, it's > > >> just a confusion factor when it comes to discussions. > > > > > > That's what I said. > > > > > >> unless we are > > >> talking about as NEC and others when they correctly call it a > "Safety > > >> Ground" or a "Grounding Conductor" and make sure that everyone > > >> understands the difference.. most don't > > >> > > >> discussions should be about > > >> > > >> Safety Grounds, and grounding conductors 100% about 60 cycle > and DC > > >> currents > > >> common connection points 100% about how the above are > connected > > >> counterpoises, radiating elements: deals 100% with RF and > antenna's > > >> > > >> etc.. properly understanding each one and you won't be confused > at all.. > > > > > > I've written extensively on this topic, and both that writing > and > > > several slide shows are on my website. k9yc.com/publish/htm > > > > > >> > > >> I also disagree with your statement > > >> > > >> "First, and most important, for lightning protection and > electrical > > >> safety." > > >> > > >> The first and most important item is an electrical Safety > Ground as it > > >> protects people, they can't be replaced. > > >> Second is lightening protection, as it typically protects > equipment. > > >> equipment can be replaced > > > Again, I refer you to my website. > > >> > > >> They don't carry the same weighting factor.. as very few > worldwide are > > >> killed from lightning vs improper safety grounds. > > > They are not different. Again, see my website. ALL grounds in a > > > premise MUST be bonded together. PERIOD. Power entry, Telco > entry, > > > CATV entry, antennas, shack, etc. These connections must NEVER > be > > > separate or independent of each other. > > > > > >> most likely the only thing we don't agree on.. everything else > you seem > > >> spot on... > > > > > > I think what you view as disagreement is my failure to write > well enough. > > > > > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > Elecraft mailing list > > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > > Please help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > Message delivered to f...@fmeco.com > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to va...@portcredit.net > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to riese-k3...@juno.com > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
