Own K-1 number 151. Sorry to hear the news. Still have lots of fun with that rig. Will accessories still be available for awhile? I'm sorry I was never able to obtain the 4 band module for it. K2AL
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UPS Can Be a Noise Source (Jim Brown) > 9. Re: K1 Discontinued (Wayne Burdick) > 10. Re: Dusting off the old K3 & Considering a KAT3A > (Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP) > 11. Re: K1 Discontinued (Raymond Sills) > 12. Re: K1 Discontinued (N4OI - Ken) > 13. Re: Elecraft K3 lock power control (Bob McGraw K4TAX) > 14. Re: Dusting off the old K3 & Considering a KAT3A > (Bob McGraw K4TAX) > 15. Re: Dusting off the old K3 & Considering a KAT3A (Mike Furrey) > 16. test (Paul VanOveren) > 17. Re: Wattage Draw - K3S/100 vs KPA500/KAT500 - for UPS > (Mike Maloney) > 18. Re: K1 Discontinued (Mike Morrow) > 19. Re: Wattage Draw - K3S/100 vs KPA500/KAT500 - for UPS (Phil Kane) > 20. Re: K1 Discontinued (Buck) > 21. Re: K1 Discontinued (Al Scanandoah) > 22. Re: K1 Discontinued (Gerald Manthey) > 23. Re: K1 Discontinued (Fred Jensen) > 24. Re: K1 Discontinued (Bert Craig) > 25. K-1 For Sale (KC6CNN) > 26. Re: K1 Discontinued (Jim Allen) > 27. Re: KX2 owner discovers Heaven/P (Bill Johnson) > 28. Re: K1 Discontinued (Don Wilhelm) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 10:30:45 -0400 > From: Gary Ferdinand <[email protected]> > To: elecraft <[email protected]> > Subject: [Elecraft] FS: KPA500/KAT500 Pair, Acom 2000A > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I?m selling this equipment now because it is surplus to my needs and I plan > on moving. Less boxes to pack. Feel free to forward this email. Contact > me directly please at: gary at w2cs dot net > > 73/Gary W2CS > North Chatham, NY > > > For Sale: > > KPA500 and KAT500 pair. Excellent condition. Sold as a pair. ? $2000 > plus shipping > > ALSO: Acom 2000A amplifier. Excellent condition. Full output power. New, > color screen, control box. - $3500 plus shipping. > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 11:19:54 -0400 > From: "Joseph M. Durnal" <[email protected]> > To: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]> > Subject: [Elecraft] Dusting off the old K3 & Considering a KAT3A > Message-ID: > <CAAbqqEOKQrwoU4XsTK4q9EyqB=agiykmdukeg8dn7lfcdjf...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Elecraft Operators, > > I have been off the HF airwaves for several years. Those darned antenna > restrictions really take the fun out of it. But after helping staff the > K2BSA operation at the Boy Scout National Jamboree this summer I've really > been itching to get back on the air from home. > > I have to come to grips that I'll never have a nice balanced antenna and > that I'm pretty much limited to random runs of wire here and there that can > be well hidden. Right now I have a manual MFJ tuner, but I know that got > old when changing bands or moving from the CW area to phone on 40 meters. > I also have some common second story grounding issues. I'm wondering if > the KAT3A would be a good investment for my K3 given my situation. > > 73 de Joseph M. Durnal - NE3R > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 09:26:27 -0600 > From: "Barthold Lichtenbelt" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>, "'MaverickNH'" <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Wattage Draw - K3S/100 vs KPA500/KAT500 - for > UPS > Message-ID: <02cf01d321a4$5a0ab280$0e201780$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> A KPA500 running on 120 volts just about maxes out a 15 amp circuit, and > that is 1800 watts input. > > I would think this depends on the mode you operate in? > > For Field Day, I operated my KPA500 (SSB only) with a 1000 watt inverter, > without any issues the whole weekend. > > http://www.xantrex.com/power-products/power-inverters/prowatt-sw.aspx > > Barthold > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 5:43 AM > To: MaverickNH; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Wattage Draw - K3S/100 vs KPA500/KAT500 - for UPS > > Bret, > > The power rating of a transmitter is the output power, not the input draw. > > If the overall efficiency is something like 33% (quite likely), then the > input draw will 3 times the output power. > The efficiency of an RF output stage alone is typically about 50%, but there > are other circuits in the transmit section that must be added and brings the > overall efficiency of the transceiver down even more. > So yes, the input power required is about 3 times the output power. > > A KPA500 running on 120 volts just about maxes out a 15 amp circuit, and > that is 1800 watts input. The K3 will need about 300 watts additional. > That means your UPS should be rated at least 2500 watts, but 3000 would be > more reasonable because it seems you have other gear in the ham station that > needs to be supported as well. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 8/30/2017 7:16 AM, MaverickNH wrote: >> As mentioned in another thread, I'm running my shack on a UPS that is >> rated 1500va/900w. With my K3S/100 and other hardware plugged in on >> the same input the UPS often max's out at 900W at < 100W on the K3S. >> Typically, the baseline with K3S on RX is ~350W and it spikes over >> 900W with TX at 100W and the UPS limits output. So it seems 100W isn't > 100W. >> >> I'm looking to switch in another UPS rated 2200VA/1320W, or 420W >> higher, for use with the KPA500/KAT500 I just acquired from another >> forum member. so from a 100W station to a 500W station. Might this >> work or is the increase in watt TX not equal to the watt drawn? > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 11:31:52 -0400 > From: Ross Primrose <[email protected]> > To: "Joseph M. Durnal" <[email protected]>, Elecraft Reflector > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dusting off the old K3 & Considering a KAT3A > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > If the cable run(s) between the K3 & the antenna(s) is fairly short, > it'd be a great choice.? If you've got long runs, being able to tune at > the antenna might work better, but might also be harder to keep out of > sight... > > 73, Ross N4RP > >> On 8/30/2017 11:19 AM, Joseph M. Durnal wrote: >> Elecraft Operators, >> >> I have been off the HF airwaves for several years. Those darned antenna >> restrictions really take the fun out of it. But after helping staff the >> K2BSA operation at the Boy Scout National Jamboree this summer I've really >> been itching to get back on the air from home. >> >> I have to come to grips that I'll never have a nice balanced antenna and >> that I'm pretty much limited to random runs of wire here and there that can >> be well hidden. Right now I have a manual MFJ tuner, but I know that got >> old when changing bands or moving from the CW area to phone on 40 meters. >> I also have some common second story grounding issues. I'm wondering if >> the KAT3A would be a good investment for my K3 given my situation. >> >> 73 de Joseph M. Durnal - NE3R >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] > > > -- > FCC Section 97.313(a) ?At all times, an amateur station must use the minimum > transmitter power necessary to carry out the desired communications.? > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 16:33:07 +0100 > From: 2E?LDZ <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Cc: Keith Trinity WE6R <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 lock power control > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Thanks Keith > > Yes. I have been using the lock function to date. And will carry on in that > way. > > The issue of what I am trying to do comes up as we are using an amplifier > that is not compatible with the ALC control on the K3S therefore the need to > minimise the risk of overdriving. It would be nice to have some flexibility > in that for less experienced users (especially as it is my radio I am lending > to the club!) so that they can experiment with the power levels up to a set > limit, without me risking my radio. > > I fully appreciate that if this were in a KX500 setup none of this would be > necessary but maybe it could be considered in a future iteration of the > software. > > cheers for the response. > Trevor Clapp > M6LDZ > 2E0LDZ > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > RADIO BLOG <http://chopcat.co.uk/page1/blog/index.html> > > 07900 49 77 11 > > > > On 30 Aug 2017, at 16:21, Keith Trinity WE6R <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Hi Trevor; I saw your post. This has baffled me when a radio comes in for > repair and is LOCKED. > You can use it for your club operations to lock the power control. > Unfortunately, they cannot go LOWER in power either. > (the word LOCKED is NOT in the manual, so hard to find this). > (We can set the max power here at the factory but it would require a trip > here and back here to un-do the limit- Japan has a 50W mobile limit). > > LOCKED shows in the display when attempting to set pwr power mic comp > compression controls. > FiX; Tap 1 in ?PWR SET? menu. > Tap 1 to LOCK or UNLOCK the MIC, CMP, and PWR controls. > > PWR SET NOR If set to NOR, the power level on each band follows the present > setting of the > PWR control. If set to PER-BAND, the power level is saved on each band. This > is especially useful with external amplifiers (see ALC discussion on page 82.) > If a KPA500 is connected to the K3S via the ACC cable, two sets of per-band > power settings are saved: one for ?barefoot? operation, one for use with the > amp. > When the amp is used, an asterisk appears as PWR is rotated (e.g. 30 W*). > > > > > > Trevor Clapp > M6LDZ > 2E0LDZ > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > RADIO BLOG <http://chopcat.co.uk/page1/blog/index.html> > > 07900 49 77 11 > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 15:36:27 +0000 (UTC) > From: Kevin Anderson <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I am a little surprised that no mention was made on this e-mail list about > the K1 being just recently discontinued. Or if it had, I missed it and don't > find it in a search of the list. > > It is being discussed over the QRP-L list, started by someone disappointed > that he just finally had tried to order a K1 this past week or weekend and > got the news. > > I presume that some key part has become unavailable, or has parts deemed not > worth restocking any longer due to significant decline in demand for the > transceiver. > > Kevin Anderson > > --------------------------------------- > Kevin Anderson, Dubuque IA USA, K9IUA > k9iua (at) yahoo (dot) com > --------------------------------------- > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 11:47:24 -0400 > From: Don Wilhelm <[email protected]> > To: "Joseph M. Durnal" <[email protected]>, Elecraft Reflector > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dusting off the old K3 & Considering a KAT3A > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Joseph, > > The KAT3A has a wide tuning range, and will normally handle a 10:1 SWR. > If your SWR range is less than that, you will find operating with the > KAT3A much more pleasant than dealing with a manual tuner. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 8/30/2017 11:19 AM, Joseph M. Durnal wrote: >> >> I have to come to grips that I'll never have a nice balanced antenna and >> that I'm pretty much limited to random runs of wire here and there that can >> be well hidden. Right now I have a manual MFJ tuner, but I know that got >> old when changing bands or moving from the CW area to phone on 40 meters. >> I also have some common second story grounding issues. I'm wondering if >> the KAT3A would be a good investment for my K3 given my situation. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 08:55:02 -0700 > From: Jim Brown <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Elecraft] UPS Can Be a Noise Source > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > A UPS consists of a DC power supply that charges a battery, and a DC-AC > inverter to convert the battery voltage to 120VAC.? Both operations can > be noisy. The DC power supply is probably a swtich mode, and the > inverter is a square wave generator that is shaped to resemble a sine wave. > > Most UPS units operate in standby mode -- until power fails, the SMPS is > charging the battery, but the inverter is not operating, and the > equipment is connected to the power line. When power fails, the inverter > starts operating. > > A FAR better way to provide UPS for radio gear is a 12V deep discharge > lead acid battery or 14.4V LiFePO4 that is float charged by a suitable > power supply. And as has been discussed several times, LiFePO4 batteries > have the major advantage that their operating voltage stays above 13V > for most of their discharge curve, while lead-acid batteries are below > 12V for most of their discharge curve. This system is as quiet as the > power supply used to float-charge the battery. > > With either battery type, care must be taken to not overcharge the battery. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > ?On 8/30/2017 4:16 AM, MaverickNH wrote: >> I'm looking to switch in another UPS rated 2200VA/1320W, or 420W higher, for >> use with the KPA500/KAT500 I just acquired from another forum member. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 08:58:06 -0700 > From: Wayne Burdick <[email protected]> > To: Kevin Anderson <[email protected]> > Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi Kevin, > > We should have made a formal announcement here. Yes, we discontinued it > because certain parts are hard to come by now, making it no longer cost > effective for us to manufacture. > > It was a great product for us, and I used mine for years, taking it on many > trips. I thought of it as a ?Sierra on Steroids? at the time (referring to an > earlier design I did for the NorCal QRP Club). But we?ve moved on to more > versatile field radios, including the KX2 and KX3. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > >> On Aug 30, 2017, at 8:36 AM, Kevin Anderson via Elecraft >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I am a little surprised that no mention was made on this e-mail list about >> the K1 being just recently discontinued. Or if it had, I missed it and >> don't find it in a search of the list. >> >> It is being discussed over the QRP-L list, started by someone disappointed >> that he just finally had tried to order a K1 this past week or weekend and >> got the news. >> >> I presume that some key part has become unavailable, or has parts deemed not >> worth restocking any longer due to significant decline in demand for the >> transceiver. >> >> Kevin Anderson > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 19:15:22 +0300 > From: Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dusting off the old K3 & Considering a KAT3A > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > The KAT3A will make it possible to load almost anything. Definitely > worthwhile. Even with antennas like the ones below. > > You might think about an end-fed multiband antenna like this one: > <http://myantennas.com/wp/product/efhw-8010/> > > It will still work if the wire is bent in numerous places. It might fit > your "random" places. > > If that's too big, here's a 40-10m version that's smaller: > <http://myantennas.com/wp/product/efhw-4010/> > > I'm a big partisan of balanced antennas, but if the option is not to > operate... > > 73, > Victor, 4X6GP > Rehovot, Israel > Formerly K2VCO > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ >> On 30 Aug 2017 18:19, Joseph M. Durnal wrote: >> Elecraft Operators, >> >> I have been off the HF airwaves for several years. Those darned antenna >> restrictions really take the fun out of it. But after helping staff the >> K2BSA operation at the Boy Scout National Jamboree this summer I've really >> been itching to get back on the air from home. >> >> I have to come to grips that I'll never have a nice balanced antenna and >> that I'm pretty much limited to random runs of wire here and there that can >> be well hidden. Right now I have a manual MFJ tuner, but I know that got >> old when changing bands or moving from the CW area to phone on 40 meters. >> I also have some common second story grounding issues. I'm wondering if >> the KAT3A would be a good investment for my K3 given my situation. >> >> 73 de Joseph M. Durnal - NE3R > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 12:18:08 -0400 > From: Raymond Sills <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Well, certainly, the handwriting was on the wall when you could no longer > purchase a 4-band K1. That said, I feel bad for Perley, who was saving up to > get one. At this point, I suspect he will have to go in a different > direction, if he wants a rig to construct himself. He's pretty much said > that he is on a very tight budget, so even saving up for a KX2 might be out > of the question. And, it appears that not too many K1 owners are anxious to > put their units on the second-hand market, either because they plan to keep > them "forever"... or because at a reasonable "price realized" from a sale is > low enough that they will just keep it. :) > > > 73 de Ray > K2ULR > KX3 #211 > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 09:36:42 -0700 (MST) > From: N4OI - Ken <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I guess my kids or XYL will dig it out and put it on the market with the rest > of my stuff one day... But man, until then, what a great QRP rig!! 4-band > K1 with ATU... a real, take-anywhere radio!! > > 73 > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 11:42:30 -0500 > From: Bob McGraw K4TAX <[email protected]> > To: 2E?LDZ <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected], Keith Trinity WE6R <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 lock power control > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I've not used ALC from the amp to control the transceiver power in years. > Just set the transceiver power to the required power during tune up of the > amp and let the superior transceiver ALC do its job. This greatly prevents > ALC overshoot. > > Bob, K4TAX > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 30, 2017, at 10:33 AM, 2E?LDZ <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Thanks Keith >> >> Yes. I have been using the lock function to date. And will carry on in that >> way. >> >> The issue of what I am trying to do comes up as we are using an amplifier >> that is not compatible with the ALC control on the K3S therefore the need to >> minimise the risk of overdriving. It would be nice to have some flexibility >> in that for less experienced users (especially as it is my radio I am >> lending to the club!) so that they can experiment with the power levels up >> to a set limit, without me risking my radio. >> >> I fully appreciate that if this were in a KX500 setup none of this would be >> necessary but maybe it could be considered in a future iteration of the >> software. >> >> cheers for the response. >> Trevor Clapp >> M6LDZ >> 2E0LDZ >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> RADIO BLOG <http://chopcat.co.uk/page1/blog/index.html> >> >> 07900 49 77 11 >> >> >> >> On 30 Aug 2017, at 16:21, Keith Trinity WE6R <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Hi Trevor; I saw your post. This has baffled me when a radio comes in for >> repair and is LOCKED. >> You can use it for your club operations to lock the power control. >> Unfortunately, they cannot go LOWER in power either. >> (the word LOCKED is NOT in the manual, so hard to find this). >> (We can set the max power here at the factory but it would require a trip >> here and back here to un-do the limit- Japan has a 50W mobile limit). >> >> LOCKED shows in the display when attempting to set pwr power mic comp >> compression controls. >> FiX; Tap 1 in ?PWR SET? menu. >> Tap 1 to LOCK or UNLOCK the MIC, CMP, and PWR controls. >> >> PWR SET NOR If set to NOR, the power level on each band follows the present >> setting of the >> PWR control. If set to PER-BAND, the power level is saved on each band. This >> is especially useful with external amplifiers (see ALC discussion on page >> 82.) >> If a KPA500 is connected to the K3S via the ACC cable, two sets of per-band >> power settings are saved: one for ?barefoot? operation, one for use with the >> amp. >> When the amp is used, an asterisk appears as PWR is rotated (e.g. 30 W*). >> >> >> >> >> >> Trevor Clapp >> M6LDZ >> 2E0LDZ >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> RADIO BLOG <http://chopcat.co.uk/page1/blog/index.html> >> >> 07900 49 77 11 >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 11:49:15 -0500 > From: Bob McGraw K4TAX <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dusting off the old K3 & Considering a KAT3A > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > In a recent QST article by Kai KE4PT he describes a nice antenna for portable > operation. > > As to 2nd floor stations and grounding, I've operated mine in that > configuration for some 20 years. There is no "station ground". I do have > 3rd pin ground in place and all equipment is bonded to the station power > supply as the common point. > > Bob, K4TAX > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 30, 2017, at 10:47 AM, Don Wilhelm <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Joseph, >> >> The KAT3A has a wide tuning range, and will normally handle a 10:1 SWR. >> If your SWR range is less than that, you will find operating with the KAT3A >> much more pleasant than dealing with a manual tuner. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >>> On 8/30/2017 11:19 AM, Joseph M. Durnal wrote: >>> >>> I have to come to grips that I'll never have a nice balanced antenna and >>> that I'm pretty much limited to random runs of wire here and there that can >>> be well hidden. Right now I have a manual MFJ tuner, but I know that got >>> old when changing bands or moving from the CW area to phone on 40 meters. >>> I also have some common second story grounding issues. I'm wondering if >>> the KAT3A would be a good investment for my K3 given my situation. >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 17:30:41 +0000 (UTC) > From: Mike Furrey <[email protected]> > To: "Joseph M. Durnal" <[email protected]>, Elecraft Reflector > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dusting off the old K3 & Considering a KAT3A > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > When I moved from Houston and house with beams to a Florida apartment but > with a big tree outside my door, I ordered the KAT3A. The KAT3 made easy work > of my stealth antenna on 40-6 meters. > Yes, I have a manual tuner and yes I have an LDG 200Pro auto-tuner but the > KAT3A was a huge convenience. Go for it. > 73, Mike WA5POK > > > On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 10:21 AM, Joseph M. Durnal > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Elecraft Operators, > > I have been off the HF airwaves for several years.? Those darned antenna > restrictions really take the fun out of it.? But after helping staff the > K2BSA operation at the Boy Scout National Jamboree this summer I've really > been itching to get back on the air from home. > > I have to come to grips that I'll never have a nice balanced antenna and > that I'm pretty much limited to random runs of wire here and there that can > be well hidden. Right now I have a manual MFJ tuner, but I know that got > old when changing bands or moving from the CW area to phone on 40 meters. > I also have some common second story grounding issues.? I'm wondering if > the KAT3A would be a good investment for my K3 given my situation. > > 73 de Joseph M. Durnal - NE3R > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [email protected] > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 13:40:56 -0400 > From: Paul VanOveren <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Elecraft] test > Message-ID: > <cag0nm64mzglmp8urstta+sixtbhtyzh5_j+ofdrykayscfm...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > NF8J > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 17:56:15 +0000 (UTC) > From: Mike Maloney <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Wattage Draw - K3S/100 vs KPA500/KAT500 - for > UPS > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Oh my!? The KPA500 is more efficient than you give it credit.???Since few > have instruments to measure ac input parameters, will volunteer actual > measurement figures.At 650W output into 50 ohm load, highest VA recorded was > at 14.1 MHz at 1166.? Watts 974 with a pf of 0.83 or 83%.?? AC input amps > 10.3.?? Awesome! > 73,Mike? AC5P > > On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 7:28 AM, Don Wilhelm > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Tom, > > That 3000 watts I mentioned is for everything in the station. > The KPA500 alone needs 120 volts at about 13 amps, maybe peaking to > something greater. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 8/30/2017 8:16 AM, KQ5S-Tom wrote: >> 3000W at 120V is 25 amps.? He had better have a dedicate circuit.? I believe >> if I had to run a dedicated circuit I would run a 220 circuit for the amp >> and put everything else on the UPS. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [email protected] > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 14:15:53 -0400 (EDT) > From: Mike Morrow <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I saw the K1 first at Dsyton 2000, just after it was announced. I ordered > one immediately, but delivery did not happen for almost six months. It is > one of my favorite electronic devices from the past 50 years. > > It covered 15 meters, and consumed only about 60 mA on receive, with > backlight. > > Two years ago mine took a lightening strike through the DC input which killed > a couple of regulators, some diodes, and a DA converter on the front panel > board. But tests show the MPU still functions and displays and responds to > the keys. Perhaps I'll get around to fixing it someday. > > Not many rigs (except the K2) have had a production and sales run of 17 > years. It will be missed, but I don't know how it was kept in production > that long. I suspect it had a unit cost to Elecraft not significantly less > than the KX2. > > Mike / KK5F > K1 serial 175 > > -----Original Message----- > >> From: N4OI - Ken <[email protected]> >> Sent: Aug 30, 2017 11:36 AM >> >> I guess my kids or XYL will dig it out and put it on the market with the >> rest of my stuff one day... But man, until then, what a great QRP rig!! >> 4-band K1 with ATU... a real, take-anywhere radio!! > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 19 > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 11:22:48 -0700 > From: Phil Kane <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Wattage Draw - K3S/100 vs KPA500/KAT500 - for > UPS > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > >> On 8/30/2017 10:56 AM, Mike Maloney wrote: >> >> At 650W output into 50 ohm load, highest VA recorded was at 14.1 MHz >> at 1166. Watts 974 with a pf of 0.83 or 83%. AC input amps 10.3. >> Awesome! > > I don't have a KPA500 (but I do have a KPA100). If it is running as a > true linear amplifier (Class A) maximum theoretical efficiency is 50%. > I'll let the designer(s) thereof kick that around. What do I know - I'm > just a (lowly) EE (with 60 years' experience). :) > > 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane > Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 > >> From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest > Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 20 > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 14:53:00 -0400 > From: Buck <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > It was a favorite of mine as well. Very capable radio that was fun to > build and operate. I am really sorry I sold it. Maybe the skunk works > at Elecraft can come up with a modern version. (hint hint). > > I know what you are going to say, "They already did. It is called a KX2." > > Buck, k4ia > Honor Roll > 8BDXCC > EasyWayHamBooks.com > >> On 8/30/2017 11:58 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >> Hi Kevin, >> >> We should have made a formal announcement here. Yes, we discontinued it >> because certain parts are hard to come by now, making it no longer cost >> effective for us to manufacture. >> >> It was a great product for us, and I used mine for years, taking it on many >> trips. I thought of it as a ?Sierra on Steroids? at the time (referring to >> an earlier design I did for the NorCal QRP Club). But we?ve moved on to more >> versatile field radios, including the KX2 and KX3. >> >> 73, >> Wayne >> N6KR >> >> >>> On Aug 30, 2017, at 8:36 AM, Kevin Anderson via Elecraft >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I am a little surprised that no mention was made on this e-mail list about >>> the K1 being just recently discontinued. Or if it had, I missed it and >>> don't find it in a search of the list. >>> >>> It is being discussed over the QRP-L list, started by someone disappointed >>> that he just finally had tried to order a K1 this past week or weekend and >>> got the news. >>> >>> I presume that some key part has become unavailable, or has parts deemed >>> not worth restocking any longer due to significant decline in demand for >>> the transceiver. >>> >>> Kevin Anderson >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [email protected] >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 21 > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 16:37:14 -0400 > From: Al Scanandoah <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I sat on the fence for too long, and didn't acquire my K1 until earlier this > year. I missed out on the 4 band module, but I at least came up with a means > to more efficiently swap 2-band modules. It's a very fun rig to use, even > without current technology. > > KX2/KX3/KX(TBD) at some point? Perhaps, but my trusty old K2 still holds down > the center spot in the shack. > > Al, K2ZN > -- > Sent via mobile > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 22 > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 15:50:44 -0500 > From: Gerald Manthey <[email protected]> > To: Al Scanandoah <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued > Message-ID: > <canpysvmn_le6nvcvsshztmclhzjh5vheit2nxnhk2hdbpf+...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Think I will post my K1 4 band and my two extra 2 Bandera for sale. > > Gerald. > > On Aug 30, 2017 3:39 PM, "Al Scanandoah" <[email protected]> wrote: > > I sat on the fence for too long, and didn't acquire my K1 until earlier > this year. I missed out on the 4 band module, but I at least came up with a > means to more efficiently swap 2-band modules. It's a very fun rig to use, > even without current technology. > > KX2/KX3/KX(TBD) at some point? Perhaps, but my trusty old K2 still holds > down the center spot in the shack. > > Al, K2ZN > -- > Sent via mobile > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [email protected] > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 23 > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 13:51:28 -0700 > From: Fred Jensen <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > R.I.P. K1.? I never had one, but on a SOTA activation with Rich, NU6T, > several years ago, we traded rigs for a bit and I got to run his K1.? > Really great little radio.? I was giving some consideration to selling > my K2/10 and getting a KX2, but then I spent some time with the K2 on > the air and 86'd that idea.? My K2 is likely to be part of my estate. > > 73, > > Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW > Sparks NV DM09dn > Washoe County > >> On 8/30/2017 1:37 PM, Al Scanandoah wrote: >> I sat on the fence for too long, and didn't acquire my K1 until earlier this >> year. I missed out on the 4 band module, but I at least came up with a means >> to more efficiently swap 2-band modules. It's a very fun rig to use, even >> without current technology. >> >> KX2/KX3/KX(TBD) at some point? Perhaps, but my trusty old K2 still holds >> down the center spot in the shack. >> >> Al, K2ZN > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 24 > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 16:57:20 -0400 > From: Bert Craig <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued > Message-ID: <1bc8765e-30ba-4729-b22b-1587fdd85dd3.maildroid@localhost> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I don't think I'll ever give up my 4-band K1. Sorry to see it discontinued, > however, thanks for developing it in the first place. Kudo to Elecraft. > > Vy 73 de Bert > WA2SI > > Sent from my android device. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 25 > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 14:48:43 -0700 (MST) > From: KC6CNN <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Elecraft] K-1 For Sale > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I am selling my Elecraft K-1. > It has the 4 band board 40,30,20,15 meters in it. > It also has two 2 band boards which also cover 40, 30, 20, 15 meters. > It has the noise blanker and the automatic antenna tuner. > The K-1 also comes with the tilt stand. > This radio had had all the current modifications to bring it to date. > Serial number on this K-1 is number 14, yes within the first 20 radios made. > I am selling all of this for $500 > The reason I am selling a lot of my ham gear is because I am going to be > moving to a cabin on a ranch and we only have limited room and will operate > off of solar power. > I have two other qrp radios and two 100 watt radios > Thanks > Gerald > > > > > > > ----- > KC6CNN - Gerald > K1 # 0014 > K3 # 6294 > KX3 # 757 > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 26 > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 17:23:45 -0500 > From: Jim Allen <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I found a K1 listed a day or so ago on QRZ, the same day his gripe was sent > out, with 4 bands, IIRC, and sent the listing to the QRP list. Whether > Purley or anyone else responded to it, I can't say, but if he wanted one, > there it was. As of the writing, it appears to be still available. > > 73 Jim Allen W6OGC > > Sent from my iPad > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 27 > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 23:12:09 +0000 > From: Bill Johnson <[email protected]> > To: Wayne Burdick <[email protected]>, Elecraft Reflector > <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 owner discovers Heaven/P > Message-ID: > > <ro1p152mb090742c222a1cc2b496f775f9c...@ro1p152mb0907.lamp152.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > There's and RC hobby there as well with the great fly in. Too bad we didn't > see the landing of the Drone or get more info on success of the portable > op... unless I missed it. Hi! > > 73, > Bill > K9YEQ > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 8:45 PM > To: Elecraft Reflector <[email protected]>; [email protected] > Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 owner discovers Heaven/P > > Mike, KM6AB, has found what may be the coolest portable operating location > ever. Here?s a link to his video: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rumdRbqLI00 > > Also see his description below. Now, don?t everyone rush to this QTH all at > the same time! > > Wayne > N6KR > > * * * > > Here is a quick video operating my KX2 from a tiny island feeding a 20m end > fed half wave (64:1 transformer and 32ft of wire) hanging from a 33ft > fiberglass mast. The island is in Huntington Lake, CA in the Sierra mtns > above Fresno. Still pics can be grabbed from the video and near the end of > the video I'm holding up the KX2 as the drone flies by. The caption could > simply be " Elecraft Island". > > 73, > > Mike KM6AB > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to [email protected] > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 28 > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 19:14:39 -0400 > From: Don Wilhelm <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Mike and all, > > Yes, both the K1 and the K2 have had an exceptionally long lifetime > compared to other ham transceivers. I received my Field Test K2 late > 1998, so my SN 0020 is 19 years old. > Even though the K1 (and KX1) have been discontinued, support will > continue for as long as the replacement parts and knowledge base exists. > > The K2 continues to be available, and Elecraft has taken some 'heroic' > steps to provide quite usable substitutes for several parts that have > disappeared because they are no longer manufactured. > How long that can continue is anyone's guess, but I can say that > Elecraft is dedicated to continuing support for the K2 for as long as > possible. > > As an extension of that philosophy, I expect that those who have the K3 > will enjoy similar support for years to come. Same for those who have > purchased the K3S, KX3 and KX2 as well as other Elecraft products. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 8/30/2017 2:15 PM, Mike Morrow wrote: >> I saw the K1 first at Dsyton 2000, just after it was announced. I ordered >> one immediately, but delivery did not happen for almost six months. It is >> one of my favorite electronic devices from the past 50 years. >> >> It covered 15 meters, and consumed only about 60 mA on receive, with >> backlight. >> >> Two years ago mine took a lightening strike through the DC input which >> killed a couple of regulators, some diodes, and a DA converter on the front >> panel board. But tests show the MPU still functions and displays and >> responds to the keys. Perhaps I'll get around to fixing it someday. >> >> Not many rigs (except the K2) have had a production and sales run of 17 >> years. It will be missed, but I don't know how it was kept in production >> that long. I suspect it had a unit cost to Elecraft not significantly less >> than the KX2. > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [email protected] > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > You must be a subscriber to post. > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > End of Elecraft Digest, Vol 160, Issue 38 > ***************************************** ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [email protected]

