Would you quit contesting if you walked into the 20 meter RTTY tent at Field 
Day and saw the same thing?  And BTW, 140/hr on Field Day CW ain’t going to 
happen even running a great pileup. FD ops just aren’t as fast as European QRQ 
ops in CQWW or the like, and tuning around (however it is done) is never going 
to be as fast as having guys lined up to work you.

When I describe contesting to non-ham friends I invoke a relatively recent ad 
campaign: It’s like finding a guy to say “Do you hear me now?” to which he 
responds “Yes, I hear you, do you hear me?” to which I respond “Yes, now is 
there anybody else out there who hears me?”

No, it’s not exchanging non-trivial information, and it’s not person to person 
chatting. It may not be one’s preferred cup of tea. But it’s not crazy.


73  -  Jim  K8MR





> On Nov 28, 2017, at 9:48 AM, Fred Moore <f...@fmeco.com> wrote:
> 
> I quit contesting when about 5 years ago, when I walked into the 20
> meter CW station at field day to relieve someone, I found 5 guys who
> could not copy any CW at all, averaging 140-150/hour one was watching CW
> skimmer and clicking on the calls, one was sending call/599 with
> keyboard and one was logging with another keyboard.  The other two were
> there just in case someone got tired of typing..  All at the same time
> they were telling jokes and drinking coffee.
> 
> I'm out of here says I, I still work FD, but refuse to work a CW
> contest, yes 30 meters is your friend on contest weekends
> 
> Fred Moore
> email: f...@fmeco.com
>       wd8...@gmail.com
> phone: 321-217-8699
> 
> On 11/27/17 10:30 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
>> I certainly sympathize with your feelings Fred. I too quit contesting when 
>> all RSTs were 5NN and rude behavior became acceptable. That was a long, long 
>> time ago. 
>> 
>> I just segue to 30 meters or QRT until the mayhem is over and I can have a 
>> real QSO with someone. 
>> 
>> Operating is, for me, a form of meditation that reduces stress. The hand 
>> that reaches for my key has gotten a lot older over the past 65 years of 
>> pounding brass but the effect on me is still the same.  I choose to keep it 
>> that way.  
>> 
>> 73, Ron AC7AC
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
>> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Moore
>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 5:09 PM
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder
>> 
>> CW skimmer can copy almost anything.  I will not play in their sand box... 
>> 
>> I think we need a good contest where each ham sends an actual RST he copes, 
>> and a personally designed 3 alpha numeric check sum.  The check sum get 
>> published when he/she turns in their log.  The logs get computer compared 
>> any call where RST and Checksum that is copied correctly during the exchange 
>> gets 5 points anyone that is incorrect looses 100 points for that QSO.  The 
>> contest sponsor should be putting out false calls and frequencies on the 
>> frequency spotter list, if any of those calls show up on any list the whole 
>> log gets tossed and their name published as a cheat..  There should also be 
>> people who only call CQTEST and never answer a call, if there call shows 
>> that log is also tossed.
>> 
>> I have not use for CW decoded qso's as a learning tool or otherwise.. off my 
>> soapbox    
>> 
>> Fred Moore
>> email: f...@fmeco.com
>>       wd8...@gmail.com
>> phone: 321-217-8699
>> 
> 
> 
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