A mistaken idea that many Hams get is that a wire antenna has no radiation in 
the "nulls". For example, a half-wave wire is often thought of as having no 
energy radiated off of its ends. There is LESS off the ends, but a real-world 
wire has some radiation in ALL directions as Dave notes. It's just stronger 
radiation in some directions. 

A real long wire (many wavelengths) is easy to match since the longer a wire 
is, the smaller the impedance excursions across the RF spectrum. The hardest to 
match are wires a half wavelength (or less) long. However, most compact ATUs 
are limited in matching range based on simple physics. Their small size cannot 
tolerate the huge RF currents and voltages frequently encountered even at 
moderate power levels. There's a good reason why the old time "antenna tuners" 
(matching networks) were so huge. It's just a matter of basic physics. But 
today most of us use antennas that offer an feed point impedance limited to the 
range our ultra-fast, super-smart "automatic antenna tuners" can handle. 

73, Ron AC7AC

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Gilbert
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 11:41 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Long wire antennas MORE


There is only a fixed amount of total energy contained in all the lobes of an 
antenna.  You almost definitely did get lots of lobes ... but you also got lots 
of nulls that exactly offset all those lobes.  You just never heard the the 
hams that were in those nulls and they never heard you.   Whatever you gain in 
one or more directions is sacrificed in one one or more other directions.  This 
is basic physics.

More lobes is not necessarily better.  In fact, taken to the extreme it is self 
defeating because a very large number of lobes (assuming they were somehow all 
of equal strength as you stated) begins to approximate a unidirectional antenna 
with no azimuth gain in any direction.

Just for grins I modeled your 700 foot antenna in EZNEC+ and on 20m it gave a 
maximum gain of about 9 dbi in a fairly narrow lobe at 16 degree elevation in 
both directions along the axis of the wire.  It also gave a total of 36 other 
sharply narrow lobes arrayed symmetrically in all other directions, each with a 
gain of about 6 dbi.  Between each lobe was a deep null of around minus 10 dbi. 
This was all at the same 16 degree elevation angle ... there were literally too 
many lobes to count on the 3D pattern, with lots of lobes and nulls at every 
azimuth and elevation angle.

A simple dipole at the same 40 foot height would have given similar gain with a 
much broader lobe (both azimuth and elevation) in the two main directions, but 
of course without the multiple smaller side lobes. Three poles and two 
perpendicular dipoles would have given better overall single band results ... 
the only advantage of the long wire being that it gives a similar pattern along 
with similarly ugly match on multiple bands.

Dave   AB7E

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