Hmmmmm......
My K3S set to 100W says it is putting out 80W on 6M.
An external power meter also reads ~80W.
I did a gain calibration and there was no change.
But, now you got me thinking.
My 50-Ohm load is +30 years old and I doubt is rated for 50MHz.

_______________ 
73,
Jim - N4ST


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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> On 
Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 22:50
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3s Output on 6M

Have you run a Transmitter Gain Calibration from the K3 Utility Application?  
If you do, be sure to use a good dummy load connected direct to the radio with 
a known good short coax jumper.

The fact you have 3 different power indicating devices which all indicate 
different power values, I'd say you have a problem with your power measuring 
system, for starters.   Always when measuring power it is wise to use a known 
good 50 ohm dummy load.  And just because the label says 50 ohms is no sign it 
is really 50 ohms. Measure it with an ohm meter.   Power meters are voltage 
sensing circuits and the R value affects the voltage.  Thus, as examples, 100 
watts into 45 ohms is 67.08 volts, 100 watts into 50 ohms is 70.71 volts, and 
100 watts into 55 ohms is 74.16 volts.    Even with a 1:1 SWR most antennas 
have some reactance and power indications will vary, depending on the complex 
Z.  It is not reliable to measure power with a reactive load such as an antenna.

Good luck.

73

Bob, K4TAX



On 7/10/2018 9:18 PM, Gary Smith wrote:
> Thanks Fred,
>
> Guess I have some issues with my K3s then.
> I think it's past warranty at this point.
> I'll break out the K3 and try to get it working in place of the K3s, 
> send the K3s back for repair and figure how to get WSJT going with the 
> K3 while 6 is still open.
>
> 73,
>
> Gary
> KA1J
>
>> My K3S shows 100 watts, my Bird 43 with a 100 watt element shows 105 
>> watts, my Daiwa CN-801HP shows 105 watts.   All measurements are made 
>> into a known 50 ohm dummy load.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Bob, K4TAX
>>
>>
>> On 7/10/2018 7:03 PM, Gary Smith wrote:
>>> What is the expected output on 6 meters?
>>>
>>> The K3 shows 110W
>>> The P3 watt meter says 73.1W
>>> The LP-100A says 60.1W
>>>
>>> When I use the internal tuner it never breaks into the higher power 
>>> range, it only outputs at 7 watts tops.
>>>
>>> On all the lower bands it puts out 100 reliably.
>>>
>>> Thanks & 73,
>>>
>>> Gary
>>> KA1J
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