I don't think John was implying people didn't have or use wwv clocks, but
that's it not a reason by itself for WWV, and I agree with him. Why pay
thousands of dollars to staff and run wwv just for clocks and stuff? With
the internet and phones that use data and or GPS satellites to constantly
synch time more effectively than radio sygnals it does seem crazy to fund
it. Not to mention that Canada has the equivalent already in CHU.
Tom, k2bew


On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 11:51 AM Ken G Kopp <kengk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> John, you're simply incorrect.  Our house has a number of WWVB synched
> clocks, as do many, many thousands of others.
>
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 09:41 John Harper <johna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes.
> > https://www.qrp-labs.com/clockn.html
> >
> >
> https://www.runnersworld.com/gear/a20827055/advanced-gps-watches-for-runners/
> >
> > and more.
> >
> > Watches and clocks as "justification" for continued WWV broadcasts is
> > laughable.
> >
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> >
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> > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 10:36 AM Dr. William J. Schmidt <
> > b...@wjschmidt.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Well let's start with all of those self-setting watches and wall
> > clocks...
> > > and then the propagation information that is broadcast.  Does GPS do
> > that?
> > >
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> > > Subject: [Elecraft] WWV/WWVH Closure
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> > > What is the justification for continued funding of WWV? Hasn't it been
> > > obsoleted (if that's a verb) by GPS as far as being a time and freq
> > > standard?
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