Yup, know all that Ray Sent from my iPhone
> On May 1, 2020, at 17:51, M. George <m.matthew.geo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Ray, I'm sure you know this, but you are simply running each OS as a > virtual machine using the Intel VT technology (not an Apple or Microsoft > thing at all). The reason you can't run the Mac OS on standard Intel PC > hard ware is due to Apple's super irritating proprietary ROM etc... > hardware signatures... trickery. Apple goes to extreme lengths to ensure > that their OS only will run on their hardware to lock you into buying their > hardware to use their OS. Folks will hack and get older versions of the Mac > OS working over time on non Apple PC hardware, but then a new Mac OS update > comes out and it then breaks running their OS on non Mac / Apple hardware > (constant cat and mouse game). I'm not saying they should or shouldn't do > that, but that's just what they do. So yeah, you can run a Windows OS on > your Mac hardware because #1, it's Intel based hardware and Apple finally > adopted a standard intel based platform etc...years ago when they finally > dumped the IBM Power PC cpu's and their terrible/horrible preemptive OS at > the time (amen! it saved Apple!). Jobs brought them back to the modern OS > era by going down the Free BSD OS path, virtually saving them from > bankruptcy. (not to mention Microsoft investing 100+ million in Apple back > then to keep them alive) > > So yeah, on your Mac / Apple PC hardware, if you can't live without the Mac > OS and you are willing to pony up for the price of their hardware, you can > still run the later versions of the Mac OS and also run virtual versions of > Windows and or boot directly into Windows on your Mac hardware, because > Microsoft doesn't lock their OS down to a specific manufactures Intel based > PC hardware. So don't thank Apple for running Windows on your Mac / Apple > hardware, thank Microsoft for keeping their OS pretty much hardware > independent and not forcing you to run their OS on one company's hardware! > > Those of us that use Windows as their primary OS, do the same thing as > you... you can virtualize and run multiple copies of Windows and other > operating systems at the same time like Linux etc... we have been doing > that for years of course and yes, we can run hacked versions of the Mac OS > too if we want to continually fight Apple in their efforts to lock their > Free BSD based OS release after release after release (serious irony that > they used Free BSD in the beginning and still lock it to their hardware). > > At the end of the day, it's nice to have options and for there to be > multiple competitors to provide us as consumers with better options and > lower prices due to that competition. Let's all be glad that there are > multiple consumer OS's out there so the companies compete against each > other, not to mention the free versions of Linux too. Options are good! > It drives competition, innovation and competitive pricing for the masses. > > Max NG7M > >> On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 5:11 PM Raymond <anyone1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I have been running Windows on my Mac since Parallels was introduced with >> only one problem, ICOMS firmware update utility. Windows on a Mac is not an >> emulator >> So, can you run two different versions of Windows and Mac OS on your PC >> and switch between them with a click of a mouse? I had to do that when ULS >> required an earlier version of Windows. I use to chuckle at my colleagues >> who needed separate computers and to deal with updates drivers viruses etc. >> I only need one Mac in my ham station. I guess I could give up my Mac and >> buy several PCs >> Ray >> W8LYJ >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On May 1, 2020, at 13:35, Don Wilhelm <donw...@embarqmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> With refurbished desktop computers available in the $200 to $300 price >> range, many loaded with Windows 10 Pro, it is not a big deal to have a >> dedicated Windows PC as the shack computer. Oh yes, you need a monitor >> too, but those also are not expensive. >>> >>> That allows you to run a Mac or Linux machine for your other computing >> tasks. >>> >>> 73, >>> Don W3FPR >>> >>> >>>> On 5/1/2020 3:16 PM, Barry wrote: >>>> Tommy, >>>> You question seems straight forward, but it is a little >> complicated. If all you need is just a logging program, almost anything >> will do. However, if you want to go beyond that, the majority of good >> software is Windows based, like CW Skimmer. Windows emulations today are >> pretty good, but occasionally do cause problems. I guess I would stay with >> a PC for overall simplicity. >>>> I have a KX3 which I operate with Win4K3, CW Skimmer, HRD, FLDIGI, >> N1MM+, and a few other packages. At some point you may decide to try out >> some some other modes or configurations. Therefore, another reason to go >> PC.. >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to anyone1...@gmail.com >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to m.matthew.geo...@gmail.com > > > > -- > M. 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