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Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 16, 2022, at 10:33 AM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: > > Send Elecraft mailing list submissions to > elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > elecraft-ow...@mailman.qth.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Elecraft digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: When is a Key Out not a Key Out (Julia Tuttle) > 2. Re: Key In - Key Out (W3AB/GEO) > 3. K3 strange overshoot (Bob McGraw) > 4. Re: K3 strange overshoot (Jim Brown) > 5. Re: Lots of Elecraft seen in contest video (Josh Fiden) > 6. K4D delivery time (Chuck Chandler) > 7. Re: K4D delivery time (Jim Rhodes) > 8. Re: K4D delivery time (Jim Brown) > 9. Elecraft One-Time Deals -- special prices & limited > quantities (Wayne Burdick) > 10. Re: K4 Pricing (K5WA) > 11. Re: K4 Pricing (Magnus Danielson) > 12. Re: K4 Pricing (Brian Maynard) > 13. Elecraft CW Net Announcement (kevin) > 14. Sunday 40 Meter SSB net 7280, 1900Z (Steve Hall) > 15. Re: K4 Pricing (Bill Johnson) > 16. Elecraft CW Net Report (kevin) > 17. K3 BG COMMAND (K4PI.Mike Greenway) > 18. K3 with PX3 Panadapter (Ed G) > 19. Re: K3 with PX3 Panadapter (Mark Goldberg) > 20. End of 3G will not affect your Amateur Radio service > (Wayne Burdick) > 21. Re: End of 3G will not affect your Amateur Radio service > (Gwen Patton) > 22. Re: End of 3G will not affect your Amateur Radio service > (Gwen Patton) > 23. Re: End of 3G will not affect your Amateur Radio service > (Ingo Meyer DK3RED) > 24. Re: End of 3G will not affect your Amateur Radio service > (j...@kk9a.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 16:08:49 -0500 > From: Julia Tuttle <ju...@juliatuttle.net> > To: Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n...@gmail.com> > Cc: Elecraft List <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] When is a Key Out not a Key Out > Message-ID: > <caevebrmf4frwyaukwrrk0dmrgqhqrl3ed-tshysfvuutrtt...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > It was technically an attack on your reason for disliking "KEY OUT", not > you! I try to be careful to attack ideas, not people. > >> On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 4:06 PM Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Well, at least I managed to precipitate something all too rare on the >> Internet these days, unanimity. And only one of the responses went >> beyond disagreeing, to attack me personally - that's progress of a sort. >> >> 73, Pete N4ZR >> Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network >> web server at <http://beta.reversebeacon.net>. >> For spots, please use your favorite >> "retail" DX cluster. >> >>> On 2/11/2022 1:23 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: >>> So, "keying the mic" or "keying up a repeater" is not proper >>> terminology? I've long heard the phrase of "the radio keys the >>> amplifier", etc. >>> >>> I need to go back to Novice class I guess... >>> >>> 73, Nate, N0NB >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to ju...@juliatuttle.net > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:37:38 -0600 > From: W3AB/GEO <w...@w3ab.org> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Key In - Key Out > Message-ID: <907b114cafae7faf12cbe8d1d37d0...@w3ab.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > A very easy solution is at hand in most of our tool boxes, a label > maker. > > Don't like the label you see, customize it. hihi > > --- > 73 de W3AB/GEO > AFA9GB > > WA2LSI, KE6RJW, W7B, AAR9AG > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 16:06:39 -0600 > From: Bob McGraw <rmcg...@benlomand.net> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 strange overshoot > Message-ID: <2ed546bc-0166-8855-c92c-def44aa0e...@benlomand.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Although my configuration is a bit different,? K3S, P3, KPA500, and > KAT500, I see a small initial overshoot when changing bands. Drive power > for each band is different.? PWR SET is Per Band.? TUN PWR is set for 20 > watts.?? I have the amp configured to switch to STBY when changing > bands.? I manually put it into OPER after a band change.???? I attribute > the issue to be the ALC and power control system in the radio getting > its act together.? K3S firmware version is?? uC 05.67. > > Operationally, when changing bands, I hit TUNE to make sure all is well > with the switching and tuning.? Then place the amp in OPER as the band > change puts it in STBY.? This seems to negate the issue. > > 73 > > Bob, K4TAX > > >> On 2/11/2022 3:06 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: >> Message: 8 >> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 16:43:21 +0100 >> From: "Petr Ourednik"<indi...@xsmail.com> >> To:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 strange overshoot >> Message-ID:<0954bd6f-61f5-4218-a22f-3b016b3ba...@www.fastmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 >> >> Hi folks, >> >> so sorry to bother you over here. >> I realized strange behavior of my trusty K3 (#778 fully upgraded, loaded, >> latest synths installed) >> When I tried to exciting KPA500 amp I suffered with strange overshoots >> during first dots. >> >> Symptoms: >> - up to 12W from K3 all is ok, over 13W the full scale deflection on KPA500 >> appears on first dots >> - after 1-2 dots power drops back to expected power based on exciting power >> level >> - the overshoot appears again after band changing or switching between >> OPER/STBY >> - 160m-30m are heavily affected, 20m-10m behaves better and it can be driven >> up to 18W but overshoot appears too (just slightly to about 600W on LED >> scale) >> >> Conditions: >> I realized that behavior into antennas with SWR all below 1:1.4 > no SWR >> protection activated at all. >> The same issue appears into dummy load. >> >> I will be happy for any kind of ideas or hints where to start...:( >> Many thanks in advance. >> >> 73 - Petr, OK1RP >> "Apple & Elecraft freak" >> B:http://ok1rp.blogspot.com >> -- >> What could be easier..? ????_?(???)?_?/?? > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 14:34:55 -0800 > From: Jim Brown <j...@audiosystemsgroup.com> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 strange overshoot > Message-ID: > <a5e597a7-ec1d-8918-d553-ec7d3be9c...@audiosystemsgroup.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > >> On 2/11/2022 2:06 PM, Bob McGraw wrote: >> I see a small initial overshoot when changing bands. Drive power for >> each band is different. > > Same here. I think it's the K3, and I think it's normal. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 14:57:17 -0800 > From: Josh Fiden <j...@voodoolab.com> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lots of Elecraft seen in contest video > Message-ID: <fd819d43-0f5d-4a34-9ea1-957b8a2bb...@voodoolab.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Great video and impressive activations! Missed a lot of rigs, too busy > looking at all the cool antennas. > > 73, > Josh W6XU > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Feb 11, 2022, at 8:38 AM, Dean Wood <cqden...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> ?Hi Elecraft list, >> >> The California QSO Party created a Youtube video to highlight all of the >> county expedition stations in CQP 2021. >> >> Elecraft gear dominates in the video. Take a look at the "Notes" section >> for each expedition and the accompanying pictures. >> >> Video can be seen at: >> https://youtu.be/sK-OebMFn7I >> After you click the Youtube video link, you can press the letter ' f ' to >> view the video in full screen. >> >> 73... >> -Dean - N6DE >> CQP Chairman >> K3 #313 >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to j...@voodoolab.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 18:34:06 -0500 > From: Chuck Chandler <chandler...@gmail.com> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] K4D delivery time > Message-ID: > <caooyq8_bme1q+mqsfzuwuzv14g+erkuqkaovnxnskbbbceq...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I?m getting serious about a new rig. Has anyone recently ordered a K4D and > could you share the estimated delivery date? > > Many thanks! > > 73 de Chuck, WS1L > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile Chuck Chandler chandler...@gmail.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 19:14:32 -0600 > From: Jim Rhodes <jimk...@gmail.com> > To: Chuck Chandler <chandler...@gmail.com> > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4D delivery time > Message-ID: > <calhxr4axcbwx-+x2v6vnaba47dv-6dyfl5gwonkrekyglt7...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I was looking a while back and it looked like the latest deliveries had > been ordered about a year earlier. > >> On Fri, Feb 11, 2022, 5:35 PM Chuck Chandler <chandler...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I?m getting serious about a new rig. Has anyone recently ordered a K4D and >> could you share the estimated delivery date? >> >> Many thanks! >> >> 73 de Chuck, WS1L >> -- >> Sent from Gmail Mobile Chuck Chandler chandler...@gmail.com >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to jimk...@gmail.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 17:28:18 -0800 > From: Jim Brown <j...@audiosystemsgroup.com> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4D delivery time > Message-ID: > <d3903024-e155-2f80-7fd9-f01f0edb0...@audiosystemsgroup.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > >> On 2/11/2022 3:34 PM, Chuck Chandler wrote: >> could you share the estimated delivery date? > > I asked Madeline about that a month or two ago, for one ordered then, > and was told "about six months." > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2022 07:56:26 -0800 > From: Wayne Burdick <n...@elecraft.com> > To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft One-Time Deals -- special prices & > limited quantities > Message-ID: <f61d26e1-948f-42c1-b822-cf1abdf7b...@elecraft.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > We have a few accessories in stock that are not listed elsewhere on our > website and have now been designated as "One-Time Deals," with special > pricing. > > For information, see: > > https://elecraft.com/pages/clearance-products > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2022 16:28:04 -0600 > From: "K5WA" <k...@comcast.net> > To: <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Cc: n...@comcast.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Pricing > Message-ID: <183f01d8205f$ce7fe5e0$6b7fb1a0$@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Dave, > > > > The exact price wasn?t exactly known as of May 2019 since not all of the > sub-component prices had been obtained by Elecraft yet. Elecraft charged me > $4,699.95 for a K4D with the understanding that I would pay some additional > amount (expectation was 10%) when the price was finalized and mine was ready > to ship. I ended up paying an additional $350. Shipping was free. > > > > As far as being on the fence, there are still many promised features yet to > show up in the K4 firmware that might cause you to delay a current purchase > but I got two of the K4Ds and am having a ball with mine just as they sit. I > went through the 10-year improvement cycle of the K3?s firmware and know > Elecraft will be improving the K4 in exactly the same way. Each new firmware > update is Christmas Day all over again with new and improved features added > to the rig! ? > > > > Bob K5WA > > > > > > Message: 7 > > Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 22:43:24 -0500 (EST) > > From: Dave Agsten <n...@comcast.net <mailto:n...@comcast.net> > > > To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> " > <elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > > > Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Pricing > > Message-ID: <455689396.654753.1644551004...@connect.xfinity.com > <mailto:455689396.654753.1644551004...@connect.xfinity.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > Does anyone recall or know what the K4D price was if you ordered back in May > of 2019? > > > > For those who have received their K4 on the East Coast, what was the shipping > cost for just a K4D? > > > > I'm on the fence here as to whether or not I should invest in the K4. I'm > also considering the ATU but I already have the KAT500. I'm not getting any > younger. :-) > > > > Tnx es 73, > > Dave N8AG > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 00:01:15 +0100 > From: Magnus Danielson <mag...@rubidium.se> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Pricing > Message-ID: <680e45e8-4135-c0dd-255e-66fe9be99...@rubidium.se> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Bob, > > Let me tell you that the firmware update of the radio worked like a > charm when I applied it on first evening of the K4D in the house. Plug > in Ethernet at the back, do the magic dance of Fn->Update etc. and it > just did it's thing. > > So no need to wait, rather be patient to see things evolve. > > I've had my K4D for less than a week, and it grows on me. The one thing > I want to figure out is how I get to order an upgrade to K4HD, even if I > know I need for wait for it and pricing is yet to be settled. > > Cheers & 73, > de SA0MAD Magnus > >> On 2022-02-12 23:28, K5WA wrote: >> Dave, >> >> >> >> The exact price wasn?t exactly known as of May 2019 since not all of the >> sub-component prices had been obtained by Elecraft yet. Elecraft charged me >> $4,699.95 for a K4D with the understanding that I would pay some additional >> amount (expectation was 10%) when the price was finalized and mine was ready >> to ship. I ended up paying an additional $350. Shipping was free. >> >> >> >> As far as being on the fence, there are still many promised features yet to >> show up in the K4 firmware that might cause you to delay a current purchase >> but I got two of the K4Ds and am having a ball with mine just as they sit. >> I went through the 10-year improvement cycle of the K3?s firmware and know >> Elecraft will be improving the K4 in exactly the same way. Each new >> firmware update is Christmas Day all over again with new and improved >> features added to the rig! ? >> >> >> >> Bob K5WA >> >> >> >> >> >> Message: 7 >> >> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 22:43:24 -0500 (EST) >> >> From: Dave Agsten <n...@comcast.net <mailto:n...@comcast.net> > >> >> To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> " >> <elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > >> >> Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Pricing >> >> Message-ID: <455689396.654753.1644551004...@connect.xfinity.com >> <mailto:455689396.654753.1644551004...@connect.xfinity.com> > >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> >> >> Does anyone recall or know what the K4D price was if you ordered back in May >> of 2019? >> >> >> >> For those who have received their K4 on the East Coast, what was the >> shipping cost for just a K4D? >> >> >> >> I'm on the fence here as to whether or not I should invest in the K4. I'm >> also considering the ATU but I already have the KAT500. I'm not getting any >> younger. :-) >> >> >> >> Tnx es 73, >> >> Dave N8AG >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to mag...@rubidium.se > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2022 18:20:54 -0500 > From: Brian Maynard <briankmayn...@gmail.com> > To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Pricing > Message-ID: <49c45784-b9dc-4f86-825b-b029b5212...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > You can see an estimate of orders, delivery times and serial numbers at this > IO site: > > https://groups.io/g/CreativeK4ShippingStatus > <https://groups.io/g/CreativeK4ShippingStatus> > > Brian, K1NW > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2022 19:41:52 -0800 > From: kevin <kev...@coho.net> > To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement > Message-ID: <bfdd943a-1ac5-4a25-f058-2e13c4590...@coho.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Good Evening, > > ?? I have been exercising my ears this week.? I bought a new set of > speakers * and a sub-woofer? * so I had to check them out.? I started > with a variety of types of music.? Then I wanted to test the specs.? A > variable sound generator would be good but I didn't have one.? I could > build one but laziness kicked in.? "I can do this" (hubris).? "I can do > this now" (impatience).? All three traits triggered at once, so I wrote > one instead.? * > > ?? A few hours later my hubris had been tempered; sound drivers are dry > reading.? Then I had a sine wave of a single frequency for ten seconds.? > Creating 44,100 samples per second was good enough. Then I swept the > frequency from low to high for one minute. Fourier suggested I add a few > sines or cosines together.? That created beat notes and resonances.? I > now know the resonant frequencies of my house, various appliances, and > my sinuses. > > ?? The sun is tossing streams of gas at us this week.? A few more are > due to hit tomorrow and Monday.? Depending on the timing, conditions > could deteriorate quickly.? There is also another Sunday activity which > may or may not affect attendance.? However, my ears are feeling pretty > good about life so CW should be soothing, even over the hiss of the sun. > > > Please join us on (or near): > > 14050 kHz at 2300z Sunday? (3 PM PST Sunday) > ?7047 kHz at 0030z Monday? (4:30 PM PST Sunday) > > ?? 73, > ????? Kevin. KD5ONS > > > > > - > > > > * code snippet > > float freq = 17.f; > float incr_freq = 0.00002f; > int seconds = 300; > unsigned sample_rate = 44100; > double my_pi = 3.14159; > size_t buf_size = seconds * sample_rate; > > // allocate PCM audio buffer > short * samples = malloc(sizeof(short) * buf_size); > > for( int i=0; i<buf_size; ++i) > ?? { > // samples[i]? = 3192 * sin( (2.f * my_pi * 5.19*freq)/sample_rate * i ); > ?? ?samples[i]? = 5134 * sin( (2.f * my_pi * 0.90*freq)/sample_rate * i ); > // samples[i] += 3097 * cos( (2.f * my_pi * 3.36*freq)/sample_rate * i ); > > ?? ?samples[i] += 3097 * sin( (2.f * my_pi * 151.0)/sample_rate * i ); > ?? ?samples[i] += 3097 * cos( (2.f * my_pi * 20.60)/sample_rate * i ); > > ?? freq += incr_freq;? //? sweep frequency just to make things interesting > /* > ?? if (17.0 > freq || freq > 1550.0) > ????? { > ????? incr_freq *= -1.0f;? // toggle direction of freq increment > ????? } > */ > ?? } > > > > * > https://audioengineusa.com/shop/wirelessspeakers/a2-wireless-computer-speakers/ > > * https://audioengineusa.com/shop/subwoofers/s6-compact-powered-subwoofer/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 14:42:09 -0500 > From: Steve Hall <99sun...@gmail.com> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] Sunday 40 Meter SSB net 7280, 1900Z > Message-ID: > <calduqnoqq7vcrumgmt5-xo6ejv6emebhzjnt5sdc51fttck...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Strong signals all around. Low band noise. Thanks to my relay stations. > WM6P STEVE GA K4D NETCONTROL > AC8UC RAY OH K4 > KB9AVO PAUL IN K4 > W3SA JOHN NC TS890 > W9EJB ED IN K4D > K8NU CARL OH FTDX101D > WY3T TIM FL K3S > AE6JV BILL NH K3 > K5LD DAN TX K3 > WN3T RICK VA IC7610 > K1NW BRIAN RI K3 > N0MPM MIKE IA K3S > KB3FWI GREG PA TS830 > KF4ALF STAN FL IC718 > KG4DBM JASON TN SWAN 140 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 22:01:10 +0000 > From: Bill Johnson <k9...@live.com> > To: K5WA <k...@comcast.net>, "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" > <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Cc: "n...@comcast.net" <n...@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Pricing > Message-ID: > > <dm6pr08mb500157c24f3c6b69b61338879c...@dm6pr08mb5001.namprd08.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Bob, well put. Every release to me like going out and buying another, better > radio. > > 73, > Bill > K9YEQ > > -----Original Message----- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> On > Behalf Of K5WA > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2022 4:28 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Cc: n...@comcast.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Pricing > > Dave, > > > > The exact price wasn?t exactly known as of May 2019 since not all of the > sub-component prices had been obtained by Elecraft yet. Elecraft charged me > $4,699.95 for a K4D with the understanding that I would pay some additional > amount (expectation was 10%) when the price was finalized and mine was ready > to ship. I ended up paying an additional $350. Shipping was free. > > > > As far as being on the fence, there are still many promised features yet to > show up in the K4 firmware that might cause you to delay a current purchase > but I got two of the K4Ds and am having a ball with mine just as they sit. I > went through the 10-year improvement cycle of the K3?s firmware and know > Elecraft will be improving the K4 in exactly the same way. Each new firmware > update is Christmas Day all over again with new and improved features added > to the rig! ? > > > > Bob K5WA > > > > > > Message: 7 > > Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 22:43:24 -0500 (EST) > > From: Dave Agsten <n...@comcast.net <mailto:n...@comcast.net> > > > To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> " > <elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > > > Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Pricing > > Message-ID: <455689396.654753.1644551004...@connect.xfinity.com > <mailto:455689396.654753.1644551004...@connect.xfinity.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > Does anyone recall or know what the K4D price was if you ordered back in May > of 2019? > > > > For those who have received their K4 on the East Coast, what was the shipping > cost for just a K4D? > > > > I'm on the fence here as to whether or not I should invest in the K4. I'm > also considering the ATU but I already have the KAT500. I'm not getting any > younger. :-) > > > > Tnx es 73, > > Dave N8AG > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to k9...@live.com > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 20:00:14 -0800 > From: kevin <kev...@coho.net> > To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report > Message-ID: <126cb0ab-2853-7004-3097-90e4aabf9...@coho.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Good Evening, > > ?? Twenty meters had a little slow QSB and low noise.? Forty meters had > faster QSB, while the noise level varied over time. Winter is in control > east of the Rockies.? The next storms arrive here in a few days.? Sun > during the middle of winter is very nice.? Spring is coming; I need to > lay down my radials before the ferns start growing.? The hummingbirds > are due any day now. > > > ? On 14050.75 kHz at 2300: > > NO8V - John - MI > > K4TO - Dave - KY > > K0DTJ - Brian - CA > > K6XK - Roy - IA > > K4JPN - Steve - GA > > > ? On 7047.5 kHz at 0030z: > > K0DTJ - Brian - CA > > K6PJV - Dale - CA > > K7TXA - Jim - ID > > AE7US - Rocky - OR > > WM5F - Dwight - ID > > AE6JV - Bill - NH > > W8OV - Dave - TX > > > ?? Until next week 73, > > ????? Kevin.? KD5ONS > > > > - > > > > > Palindromes are words, or series of words, which read the same forward > and backward. > > Able was I ere I saw Elba > A man a plan Panama > Was it a cat I saw > etc. > > We use 73 often.? It is an example of a CW palindrome; it sounds the > same forward and backward. > > Creating numeric CW palindromes is simple: > 73 > 82 > 91 > 55 > etc. > > How do you form a CW palindrome using letters? > Letters which form actual words, legal in Scrabble? > > While AHA is a palindromic word it is not a CW palindrome since > ?? di dah??? di di di dit?? di dah > Is not the same as > ?? dah dit?? di di di dit?? dah dit > which forms NHN. > > Hints - > Characters which mirror themselves: > E H I K M O P R S T X > > Characters which form mirror pairs: > A? N > B? V > D? U > F? L > G? W > Q? Y > > C J Z?? have no inverse > > Mirror words: > I > an > ere > wig > mom > toot > gnaw > fool > feel > > I have not yet found a five letter CW palindrome. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 08:58:26 -0500 > From: "K4PI.Mike Greenway" <k...@bellsouth.net> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 BG COMMAND > Message-ID: <628db845-04a3-785f-75ca-83b1f819c...@bellsouth.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > I need some help with using the BG command and other questions.? Could > someone contact me offline if they are familiar with setting up that > command and also finding a command to change LINE IN.? I cant find that > in the Programmers Reference Manual.? 73 Mike K4PI > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:57:25 -0500 > From: Ed G <ed.n...@gmail.com> > To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 with PX3 Panadapter > Message-ID: <620a6dd5.1c69fb81.c4b1f.a...@mx.google.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Has anyone tried using a PX3 with the K3 transceiver? Seems like running the > IF through an LP-PAN, and then connecting the I/Q output of the LP-PAN to the > PX3 would work. > --Ed, N3CW? > > > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 19 > Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 14:05:31 -0700 > From: Mark Goldberg <marklgoldb...@gmail.com> > To: Ed G <ed.n...@gmail.com> > Cc: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 with PX3 Panadapter > Message-ID: > <CAKn+a3tJ+nysZDyBQfNczEUnCpqnMZb+Rec9RTGwpA_=s4p...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I would not think the software / firmware would work. The PX3 connects to > the KX3 serial port and they talk. For example, the PX3 knows what > frequency the KX3 is on. It tracks the KX3 and shows colored bars where the > VFO passbands are. > > 73, > > Mark > W7MLG > >> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 7:58 AM Ed G <ed.n...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Has anyone tried using a PX3 with the K3 transceiver? Seems like running >> the IF through an LP-PAN, and then connecting the I/Q output of the LP-PAN >> to the PX3 would work. >> --Ed, N3CW? >> >> >> >> >> -- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to marklgoldb...@gmail.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 20 > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 20:16:48 -0800 > From: Wayne Burdick <n...@elecraft.com> > To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: [Elecraft] End of 3G will not affect your Amateur Radio > service > Message-ID: <4f14e135-2813-4854-9a5a-922eacc87...@elecraft.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Major cellular networks are planning to phase out 3G support in favor of 4G > and 5G, starting this month with AT&T. This will render useless millions of > cell phones, home alarm systems, car security systems, and "I've fallen and I > can't get up!" buttons. > > As an Amateur Radio service subscriber, you'll be relieved to know that > *your* communications service will not be affected. Elecraft is fully > committed to noninterference with the physical laws governing ionospheric > propagation. Further, we promise to never sell any spectrum without advance > notice. > > 3G has had a good run. But it can't match the longevity of 0G. > > Wayne, N6KR > Service Rep. > Elecraft, Inc. > > ------------------- > Ham radio: The original network, serving you continuously since 1907. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 21 > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 23:29:45 -0500 > From: Gwen Patton <ard...@gmail.com> > To: Elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] End of 3G will not affect your Amateur Radio > service > Message-ID: > <ca+nqa2n2bsdqxfl0c5eegnj05py96wwb-pzmkxgqlbutjtp...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I have a couple of phones that I just put month-to-month sim cards from > Ting into. They're served by T-Mobile. One of my old phones is definitely > getting obsoleted out, but that's fine, it's an ancient 2g "Feature Phone" > I got from Ebay on a whim. I don't THINK it's a 3g phone...it's one of > those Samsung Gravity "Sidekick" style keyboard phones. The only other > phone I have one of those cards in is my Inrico 320, and that's safely 4g. > I'll probably deactivate the card from the old feature phone rather than > pay line charges on it, and buy a new card if I get another phone. I'm not > worried about the Gravity, it only cost me about $40 on Ebay anyway, and it > was just a whim to get a cool phone I couldn't afford when it was actually > popular. > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 73, > Gwen, NG3P > > >> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 11:17 PM Wayne Burdick <n...@elecraft.com> wrote: >> >> Major cellular networks are planning to phase out 3G support in favor of >> 4G and 5G, starting this month with AT&T. This will render useless millions >> of cell phones, home alarm systems, car security systems, and "I've fallen >> and I can't get up!" buttons. >> >> As an Amateur Radio service subscriber, you'll be relieved to know that >> *your* communications service will not be affected. Elecraft is fully >> committed to noninterference with the physical laws governing ionospheric >> propagation. Further, we promise to never sell any spectrum without advance >> notice. >> >> 3G has had a good run. But it can't match the longevity of 0G. >> >> Wayne, N6KR >> Service Rep. >> Elecraft, Inc. >> >> ------------------- >> Ham radio: The original network, serving you continuously since 1907. >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to ard...@gmail.com >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 22 > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 23:35:55 -0500 > From: Gwen Patton <ard...@gmail.com> > To: Elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] End of 3G will not affect your Amateur Radio > service > Message-ID: > <CA+nQa2N-pXVL=u_OYUmr4v-oHxQ84K-u=8fom6ohr2wjfmb...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > If I'm wrong and the T320 isn't the VoLTE that's safe for now, I guess I'll > just have to get something more up to date. *shrug* > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 73, > Gwen, NG3P > > >> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 11:29 PM Gwen Patton <ard...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I have a couple of phones that I just put month-to-month sim cards from >> Ting into. They're served by T-Mobile. One of my old phones is definitely >> getting obsoleted out, but that's fine, it's an ancient 2g "Feature Phone" >> I got from Ebay on a whim. I don't THINK it's a 3g phone...it's one of >> those Samsung Gravity "Sidekick" style keyboard phones. The only other >> phone I have one of those cards in is my Inrico 320, and that's safely 4g. >> I'll probably deactivate the card from the old feature phone rather than >> pay line charges on it, and buy a new card if I get another phone. I'm not >> worried about the Gravity, it only cost me about $40 on Ebay anyway, and it >> was just a whim to get a cool phone I couldn't afford when it was actually >> popular. >> >> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >> 73, >> Gwen, NG3P >> >> >>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 11:17 PM Wayne Burdick <n...@elecraft.com> wrote: >>> >>> Major cellular networks are planning to phase out 3G support in favor of >>> 4G and 5G, starting this month with AT&T. This will render useless millions >>> of cell phones, home alarm systems, car security systems, and "I've fallen >>> and I can't get up!" buttons. >>> >>> As an Amateur Radio service subscriber, you'll be relieved to know that >>> *your* communications service will not be affected. Elecraft is fully >>> committed to noninterference with the physical laws governing ionospheric >>> propagation. Further, we promise to never sell any spectrum without advance >>> notice. >>> >>> 3G has had a good run. But it can't match the longevity of 0G. >>> >>> Wayne, N6KR >>> Service Rep. >>> Elecraft, Inc. >>> >>> ------------------- >>> Ham radio: The original network, serving you continuously since 1907. >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to ard...@gmail.com >>> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 23 > Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 09:09:23 +0100 > From: Ingo Meyer DK3RED <dk3...@darc.de> > To: Elecraft List <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] End of 3G will not affect your Amateur Radio > service > Message-ID: <810859d5-27d5-7825-742f-efa446fc3...@darc.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Hello Gwen, > > >> ... One of my old phones is definitely >> getting obsoleted out, but that's fine, it's an ancient 2g "Feature Phone" >> I got from Ebay on a whim. > > Here in Germany, 3G was already switched off in July 2021. However, most > phones continue > to work as they can handle both 3G and 4G. > > And please take a close look at your 2G phone before throwing it away. My > ancient 2G phone > continues to work even if 3G no longer exists here. > > > 73/72 de Ingo, DK3RED - Don't forget: the fun is the power! > www.qrp4fun.de - dk3...@qrp4fun.de > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 24 > Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 11:30:22 -0500 > From: <j...@kk9a.com> > To: <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] End of 3G will not affect your Amateur Radio > service > Message-ID: <000601d82352$7f120f10$7d362d30$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I think you're missing the point of Wayne's humorist post. I also like 0G > on my K3S! > > John KK9A > > > > Gwen Patton NG3P wrote: > > I have a couple of phones that I just put month-to-month sim cards from > Ting into. They're served by T-Mobile. One of my old phones is definitely > getting obsoleted out, but that's fine, it's an ancient 2g "Feature Phone" > I got from Ebay on a whim. I don't THINK it's a 3g phone...it's one of > those Samsung Gravity "Sidekick" style keyboard phones. The only other > phone I have one of those cards in is my Inrico 320, and that's safely 4g. > I'll probably deactivate the card from the old feature phone rather than > pay line charges on it, and buy a new card if I get another phone. I'm not > worried about the Gravity, it only cost me about $40 on Ebay anyway, and it > was just a whim to get a cool phone I couldn't afford when it was actually > popular. > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 73, > Gwen, NG3P > > >> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 11:17 PM Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com> wrote: >> >> Major cellular networks are planning to phase out 3G support in favor of >> 4G and 5G, starting this month with AT&T. This will render useless > millions >> of cell phones, home alarm systems, car security systems, and "I've fallen >> and I can't get up!" buttons. >> >> As an Amateur Radio service subscriber, you'll be relieved to know that >> *your* communications service will not be affected. Elecraft is fully >> committed to noninterference with the physical laws governing ionospheric >> propagation. Further, we promise to never sell any spectrum without > advance >> notice. >> >> 3G has had a good run. But it can't match the longevity of 0G. >> >> Wayne, N6KR >> Service Rep. >> Elecraft, Inc. >> >> ------------------- >> Ham radio: The original network, serving you continuously since 1907. > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > You must be a subscriber to post. > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > End of Elecraft Digest, Vol 214, Issue 6 > **************************************** > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
