Hi all,

There have been some reports (f.i by Rob Sherwood) of AGC's in modern DSP
receivers being a bit "restless" (being over-responsive or "dancing on the
noisefloor")  The K3 AGC is most certainly on the right track but has had
some work in the past.

Could the following be the case:

Besides prevent clipping in RF/IF stages, in the end of the day our AGC is
mainly there to serve our ears. Since the AGC detector stage is triggered by
"white" bandnoise, is it not relatively(!) more sensitive to sounds near the
high flank of our passband? In other words being triggered relatively more
by static and pulse noises, which undermines it's control over the lower
voice-content (the vocal-cord part of the spectrum).

Up till now I've only seen approaches in the time and gain domain (delaying
the attack,modifying the attack/decay timeslopes and onset threshhold) but
not in the frequency domain, adjusting some frequencies to have more grip on
the agc and some less.

In audioland it's quite common to "side-chain" a dynamics processor
(compressor/limiter) with a filtered version of the program material you
wan't to treat. If you offer the AGC detector an input with a HPF inline it
will become less sensitive to bass content. If you offer it an input with a
LPF inline it will become less sensitive to high tones. In other words you
get "frequency-dependent dynamics processing".

If you would use some sort of sloping (pink? ;-) LPF in front of the AGC
detector in a DSP receiver, could you prevent it from being overly sensitive
to white noise content? It might do a better job on tracking voice and be
less responsive to pulse and static type noises near the high slope of the
passband.

Would this (combined with Rob Sherwoods "delayed attack" transient approach)
be an option to really tame the AGC in a near perfect DSP receiver?  Excuse
me if i'm kicking in open doors...

73'
Paul
PD0PSB
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