Hi Geoff

The  Icom 7800 costs more than most commercial HF transceivers which are all 
type approved for marine radio or land mobile service. Currently radios  have 
to be  Type accepted by the FCC before being sold. I cant see how adding 2 more 
test criteria onto checklist will add costs when this pre-compliance has to be 
carried out and payed for  anyhow? 

Anyway its nice to see that Yaesu is using decent RF FETS in their new FT-5000 
design. Its also great to see that  ADAT is also using advanced RF methods in 
their radios PA for better linearity.



John

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy <gm4...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> From: Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy <gm4...@btinternet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 in the CQWW contest
> To: "juergen piezo" <plebia...@yahoo.com>
> Cc: "Elecraft Discussion List" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 2:20 PM
> Hi John,
> 
> While I agree with much of your argument, there could be a
> price to pay in the form of Equipment Type Approval.if
> further regulations were imposed on the Amateur Service.
> Without doubt Type Approval would increase the selling price
> of the "black boxes", and put an end to the use of
> homebrewed equipment.
> 
> As matters stand, the Amateur Service is viewed by most
> Authorities as a "Self Regulatory" Service. The standards
> for amateur transmitter harmonic and spurious levels are
> intended to protect Services other than the Amateur Service
> from interference caused by amateur transmitters, a fact
> that I am sure you already know. There is talk about
> reducing these levels.
> 
> IMHO the problem of clicks, splatter ad nauseum must be
> solved somehow by us amateurs without having further
> regulations imposed. For example here in Europe deliberate
> jamming is a serious problem, but attempts have been and are
> being made by amateurs to find the culprits.
> 
> 73,
> Geoff
> GM4ESD
> 
> 
> juergen piezo <plebia...@yahoo.com>
> wrote on Tuesday, December 01, 2009 at 8:35 PM:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Matt
> 
> Most of us are black box operators. We need regulations for
> the amateur service that specifies how our transmitters must
> perform, just like every other HF spectrum  user.
> 
> Its amazing how the amateur service holds its head up high
> as some sort of technical  demigod society, yet we cant
> even clean up our own camp.
> 
> Arguments that transmitter standards interferes with
> technical development is a nonsense argument in my view.
> 
> Its time that the ARRL lobbied the FCC  for standards
> for amateur transmitters, and these standards should include
> keyclicks and SSB transmitter and amplifier IMD levels.
> 
> We know keyclicks are unacceptable, why would it be so
> hard  to specify by how much keyclicks should be
> suppressed by  and what the maximum bandwidth should
> be? How does setting such standards interfere with technical
> development?
> 
> We already have standards for harmonic and spurious 
> levels. The FCC said a long time ago that we cant interfere
> with televisions or other services if our transmitters are
> crap. They set harmonic levels for transmitters. Its now
> time for them to say its also unacceptable for hams to
> interfere with hams using crap equipment.
> 
> Its a disgrace that anyone can go buy a cheap 12 volt
> mobile radio and then go buy a cheap RM Italy
> amplifier  and then get on the ham bands and call CQDX.
> Its equally sad that such operators think that they are
> legally entitled to do so  without worrying about
> the  consequences to others. Its selfish and not in the
> ham spirit. How is it fair that this kind of brain dead
> operation is classed as "technical experimenting" when it
> causes so much  interference to others?
> 
> Why the law stinks, is that if I decided to  tune up
> on this individual for 1 hour I would be breaking the law
> because I am causing deliberate interference. Yet if I use a
> class C CB amplifier with a substandard transmitter it would
> be okay to cause interference all day  and I am legal.
> 
> We need to wake up to ourselves and  our regulations.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


      
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