Hi Don,

Thank you for your help and information! K15 was the offender - when
hot, pins 3 to 4 and also 7 to 8 stay connected after changing the band
from 20m down to 40 or 80. This cuts off the path through K14 and K13 to
C71 and C72.

73,
Phil W6TQG


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:w3...@embarqmail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:50 PM
> To: Phil-W6TQG
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2/100 Has No Output on 80 or 40 When Hot
> 
> Phil,
> 
> The problem will be found in the VFO Range Selection area.  
> Look at the 
> schematic for the RF Board sheet 1.
> Check the soldering of C71 and C72 and relay K13.
> It is possible that when hot, the contacts of K13 (and 
> possibly K14) are 
> not making good contact.
> Set to 80 meters and wait until the failure occurs, then power the K2 
> off and quickly (before things cool), check for continuity 
> between K13 
> pins 3 and 4 also between pins 7 and 8 - both should be zero 
> ohms - if 
> not, the relay has failed.
> Check K14 in a similar manner, but set to 40 meters - after 
> the failure, 
> you should have continuity between pins 3 and 4 of K14 and 
> also between 
> pins 7 and 8.
> 
> The relay pins are numbered like an IC (pins 1 and 10 are at the same 
> end).  Look for the round solder pad at pin 1 (or the end 
> with the white 
> stripe).
> 
> This is either a temperature related solder connection or a relay 
> contact problem.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> Phil-W6TQG wrote:
> > Hi Don,
> >
> > Thank you for your help. Yes, it appears to be the VFO. The 
> VCO readings
> > at TP1 for 20, 30, 40 and 80m are normal when the K2 is 
> cool, but when
> > hot the readings are near 15,600 for 40 and 17,257 for 80. 
> No wonder I
> > can't transmit or receive! 20 and 30m appear to be normal when hot.
> >
> > What do you suggest I look at next?
> >
> > 73,
> > Phil
> >
> >
> >   
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:w3...@embarqmail.com] 
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 6:08 AM
> >> To: Phil-W6TQG
> >> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2/100 Has No Output on 80 or 40 When Hot
> >>
> >> Phil,
> >>
> >> To use the base K2 BNC antenna jack, you must remove the 
> >> KPA100 - if you 
> >> attempt to use that jack, the load impedance between the base 
> >> K2 and the 
> >> KPA100 will not be correct, and "strange happenings" will 
> be present.
> >>
> >> A total lack of power (yes, a display of 0.1 or 0.2 watts is 
> >> actually no 
> >> power out) is most likely a problem either in the bandpass 
> >> filter or a 
> >> problem with the VFO.  Try the VFO first - set the frequency 
> >> to the low 
> >> end of the band and check the frequency with the counter 
> probe in TP1 
> >> using CAL FCTR - compare your frequency reading with the 
> chart on the 
> >> Schematic Key page.  If you want to calculate the proper VFO 
> >> frequency 
> >> it should be within a few kHz of the frequency on the dial 
> >> plus 4915 for 
> >> bands below 15 meters.
> >>
> >> Check all the components in the bandpass filter area for 40m 
> >> and for 80 
> >> meters.  On 40 meters, be certain C6 is properly installed 
> >> between the 
> >> two outer holes of the J15 position (the center hole 
> should be empty).
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Don W3FPR
> >>
> >> Phil-W6TQG wrote:
> >>     
> >>> Every since the last Field Day, my K2/100 (#3713) loses 
> >>>       
> >> output, and the
> >>     
> >>> receiver goes dead, on 40m and 80m when it gets hot. This 
> occurs for
> >>> power levels of 9 watts and 100 watts. The 30m through 10m 
> >>>       
> >> bands are OK.
> >>     
> >>> I can easily replicate the problem when the power amp is 
> >>>       
> >> connected, but
> >>     
> >>> so far it seems to be OK when it is completely unplugged 
> >>>       
> >> from the K2.
> >>     
> >>> Turning off the power amplifier through the Secondary Menu 
> >>>       
> >> does not make
> >>     
> >>> a difference. While transmitting at 9W, the readings on the 
> >>>       
> >> display for
> >>     
> >>> 40 and 80 are "0.1 1.01 - 1". With the power amplifier 
> >>>       
> >> connected to the
> >>     
> >>> K2, I temporarily connected the antenna to J4 on the K2, so 
> >>>       
> >> that I could
> >>     
> >>> bypass the power amplifier path. This did not help the dead 
> >>>       
> >> reception on
> >>     
> >>> 40 or 80. I also tried connecting a dummy load through a 
> >>>       
> >> power meter to
> >>     
> >>> J4 and transmitting at 9W. Again 40 and 80 didn't work but 
> >>>       
> >> the higher
> >>     
> >>> bands were OK.
> >>>
> >>> I am assuming that the problem is in the LPF of the power 
> >>>       
> >> amplifier, but
> >>     
> >>> am not sure 30m is OK, while 40 and 80 are not. Any hints would be
> >>> appreciated.
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>> Phil W6TQG
> >>>
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