Understood.  That makes a lot more sense.  I'd bet you probably did
better than you think but I understand the FUD (Fear, Uncertainty,
and/or Doubt) that you may have messed it up.  Perhaps you could
borrow a MFJ259B from a local club or elmer to get the job done.  I
used the zero beat function and then later brought home my Agilent
MSO6104 scope (as they have hardware frequency counters in them) and
found that I was only off by a few Hz.  Honestly the main thing is
that when you call some one they answer you.  In certain modes that
can become a much more difficult task but I think if you were running
into that issue you'd know...

~Brett (N7MG)

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 2:37 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF
<m0...@alphadene.co.uk> wrote:
> Brett, I think after all this time, I may have misunderstood the Reference 
> Oscillator calibration instructions.
> I had always read the following:
>
> Reference Oscillator
> The K3’s reference oscillator is a TCXO, or temperature-compensated crystal 
> oscillator. It is normally calibrated at assembly time or by the factory. 
> There are two types: 5 ppm and 1 ppm.
> Either TCXO can be calibrated using an accurate frequency counter (Method 1), 
> or by zero-beating the sidetone against a reference signal (Method 2).
> Accuracy of the 1 ppm TCXO can be improved by entering the supplied 
> calibration data (Method 3). Be sure to keep the data sheet that was supplied 
> with the oscillator.
>
> As meaning there were 3 methods of calibrating the frequency, but now I think 
> there are only 2 ways to calibrate it, plus the possibility of improving the 
> stability (method 3).
>
> I'm happy that it's very stable, but not sure I did a good job on the 
> frequency. I don't have a frequency counter and did the best I could to 
> zero-beat it.
>
>
> so thanks for your comments, they have helped me understand this better.
> 73 de M0XDF
> --
> It is not how old you are, but how you are old. -Jules Renard, writer
> (1864-1910)
>
> On 17 Jun 2010, at 22:13, Brett Howard wrote:
>
>> You said you wanted to be able to calibrate it via the data that came
>> with the device.  You can calibrate it by inputting the data to the
>> radio and you will get the 0.5PPM accuracy you were promised.  Does
>> that mean that the data is used? No.  But you CAN input it and you
>> WILL get the accuracy you paid for.
>>
>> ~Brett (N7MG)
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 2:10 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF
>> <m0...@alphadene.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Is it then used - I thought I saw a post saying you can input it, but it's
>>> not used.
>>> And I wonder if that works in the OSX version ?
>>> 73 de M0XDF
>>> --
>>> As a well spent day brings happy sleep, so life well used brings happy
>>> death. -Leonardo da Vinci, painter, engineer, musician, and scientist
>>> (1452-1519)
>>> On 17 Jun 2010, at 21:46, Brett Howard wrote:
>>>
>>> You can input the information via the K3 utility.   It is then stored in the
>>> radio...
>>>
>>> ~Brett
>>>
>>> On Jun 17, 2010 1:16 PM, "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <m0...@alphadene.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I would like to be able to calibrate it according the manual and Method 3
>>>> 73 de M0XDF
>>>> --
>>>> Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are
>>>> putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.
>>>> -Mark Twain, author and humorist (1835-1910)
>>>>
>>>> On 17 Jun 2010, at 19:37, Brett Howard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So you bought the TCXO because you wanted to be able to say that it
>>>>> was further temperature compensated by firmware? Because what was
>>>>> promised was that it would get to 0.5PPM via additional firmware
>>>>> correction. Well it turns out that the oscillators already do that
>>>>> out of the box. Thus implementing even further enhancement got moved
>>>>> very low on the list because people were already receiving that which
>>>>> they were promised.
>>>>>
>>>>> At the moment there are MANY things that the P3 will be able to do
>>>>> that are yet to be promised. You can easily tell by looking at the
>>>>> back of one at a hamfest. There is a VGA connector port, a USB
>>>>> Keyboard port, and a port to accept a W2 sensor... Think of all the
>>>>> possibilities that can come from this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not to mention.. Think of all the features that have come to the K3
>>>>> that weren't promised! I'd hope that you purchased the TCXO so that
>>>>> you could have 0.5PPM rather than 5PPM accuracy on your reference You
>>>>> can be comforted if that is the case as you are actually getting
>>>>> exactly what you paid for.
>>>>>
>>>>> ~Brett (N7MG)
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
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