Paul asked: > But be > honest and give your best guess as to what percentage of the > voting population would get beyond 5 while in the voting > booth.
The examples I described, where I had voted positively and negatively for all 30 candidates in an STV-PR elections, were annual postal ballots for the council of an organisation to which I belong. Electors had the luxury of having some weeks to study a one-page statement from every candidate published in the election booklet. > My guess is not even all of the EM-list subscribers > would be as assiduous for an election that had 30 or 40 > different races in the election, each of which has 3-10 > alternatives. We don't have this problem. The most we ever have is two elections of the same day - most commonly two FPTP elections, both in single-member districts. In Scotland and Wales we make it a little more complicated because we hold an FPTP election and a two-vote AMS (= MMP) election on the same day, so that's three "X"s on separate ballot papers. But that's all. As to the behaviour of real electors in real STV-PR public elections, here are some results from an analysis of the electronic "ballot papers" in the Meath constituency at the 2002 Dáil election. There were 14 candidates for 5 places. The two largest parties (FF and FG) both put up 3 candidates. Four smaller parties each put up 1 candidate, and there were 4 non-party candidates. There were 64,081 valid votes. There is no restriction of any kind on the number preferences a voter may mark. The average number of preferences marked was 4.65. Every candidate was marked as every possible preference (1 - 14) by at least some voters. The smallest group was 46 voters (0.07% of total) for one of the 14th preferences. The largest group was 11,534 (18% of total) for one of the 1st preferences. Number Percentage of Prefs of marked Voters 1 5% 2 7% 3 33% 4 19% 5 13% 6 8% 7 4% 8 2% 9 1% 10 1% 11 1% 12 1% 13 1% 14 4% The surge at pref 14 is evidence of real negative voting on the part of some electors. One candidate attracted 25% of the 14th preferences, another 19% and another 15%, with much smaller numbers spread across the other 11 candidates. There was an interesting difference in behaviour between the 'supporters' of the two parties that both put up 3 candidates. (Supporter defined here as a voter who gave his or her first preference to any one of that party's 3 candidates.) Significantly more of FF's supporters stopped at 3 preferences than did FG's supporters. The balance was made up at 5, 6 and 7 preferences, with a few more at 8, 9 and 10 preferences. Number of Prefs marked FF FG 1 4% 3% 2 6% 5% 3 40% 28% 4 20% 20% 5 12% 16% 6 6% 10% 7 3% 5% 8 2% 3% 9 1% 2% 10 1% 2% 11 1% 1% 12 1% 1% 13 1% 1% 14 3% 4% Total number of Supporters: FF = 28, 786 FG = 17,452 Between them these two parties gained 72% of the first preferences. So my voting habits are not typical. But I already knew that. No one on this list is a typical elector. If they were, they wouldn't be here. James ---- Election-methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info