Hi, James G-A wrote: > I suggest that ordinary winning votes methods (beatpath, > ranked pairs, river, etc.) fails Mike Ossipoff's "strong > defensive strategy criterion", according to what I think > is the most reasonable interpretation of that criterion, > whereas cardinal pairwise passes the criterion. -snip-
To conclude that James' interpretation is most reasonable, I think one must take Mike's words out of context, since elsewhere Mike wrote that truncating a preference shall _not_ be considered falsely voting two candidates equal. But I'm just nitpicking, since there's a legitimate question as to which version is the better criterion. James' version appears to me to be equivalent to my "sincere defense" criterion, which can only be satisfied if the voting method is more complex for the voter than merely expressing an order of preference. The added complexity means it may not be a better criterion. It depends on what the voters can handle and will tolerate... The cardinal pairwise strategy James suggested for the majority trying to ensure x cannot win, which involves giving a rating of 100 to some compromise y they all prefer over x, raises the question whether voters can be relied on to carry it out. Giving a maximal rating to a compromise candidate is similar to ranking a compromise equal to one's favorite--the "nondrastic defense strategy" --and voters may be similarly reluctant to do it. It might be inconsistent with the spirit of SDSC to rely on voters to misrepresent upward their rating of the compromise candidate. Long ago when I wrote about the sincere defense criterion and several families of voting methods that satisfy it, all of which allow the voter to optionally insert a dividing line somewhere in her order of preference, I stressed that the dividing line should NOT be interpreted as an approval/disapproval line; it should be publicized as a strategic device that does not correspond to any sincere preferences. Some voters (e.g., supporters of Ralph Nader) may be reluctant to use it appropriately if they believe its strategically optimal usage would be interpreted as an expression of "approval" of a "lesser of evils." If the dividing line is entirely strategic, then no matter where the voter places it it will not be considered a misrepresentation of preferences. > According to Steve Eppley's wording of the criterion, > under the name "minimal defense", winning votes Condorcet > does indeed pass. This is because Steve's definition says > that the majority can't falsify a preference regarding > the higher-ranked candidate, but it doesn't say that > you can't manipulate other preferences. > > Steve's minimal defense criterion: > "If more than half of the voters prefer alternative y > over alternative x, then that majority must have some > way of voting that ensures x will not be elected and > does not require any of them to rank y equal to or > over any alternatives preferred over y. > > (Another wording is nearly equivalent: Any ordering > of the alternatives must be an admissible vote, > and if more than half of the voters rank y over x > and x no higher than tied for bottom, then x must > not be elected. > > This criterion, in particular the first wording, > is promoted by Mike Ossipoff under the name Strong > Defensive Strategy Criterion. Satisfaction means > a majority can defeat 'greater evil' alternatives > without having to pretend to prefer some compromise > alternative as much as or more than favored > alternatives. Since voters in public elections > cannot be relied upon to misrepresent their > preferences in this way, non-satisfaction means > that elites will sharply limit the set of nominees > that voters are asked to vote on, by offering a > system in which there are only two viable parties, > each of which nominates only one alternative.)" > > Steve's definition is a weaker criterion. Winning > votes meets Steve's criterion but not my interpretation > of Mike's criterion; cardinal pairwise meets both. > Other anti-strategy add-ons to the pairwise method, > such as Mike's AERLO and ATLO, will probably also > meet the stricter definition of the criterion. The second wording of minimal defense (which I described as "nearly equivalent") is not strictly weaker than sincere defense; it's different. It specifies a particular simple voting strategy that must be effective and does not mention any input beyond orders of preference. I don't recall the definition of James' cardinal pairwise method, so I cannot say whether it satisfies the second wording. --Steve ---- Election-methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info