On Dec 31, 2007, at 15:34 , CLAY SHENTRUP wrote: >> Although I have some opinions on Condorcet completion I agree with >> Rob that too much energy is spent on the Condorcet completion >> debates. All methods that are Condorcet compliant are already quite >> good methods. > > well, you don't know what you're talking about.
I could agree that you think that I don't know what I'm talking about ;-). Your examples (below) seem to be from a Range voting promotion site (that explains something). I have read them (or some predecessors of them) also earlier. Some quick comments follow (I didn't reread the articles carefully now, but you may correct if I missed something). > http://rangevoting.org/DH3.html I don't know what the A supporters are doing. They obviously know that D has practically no support. They should know that their A>D>B>C votes will have no impact alone. And they should know that if others join the game then D could be elected with some probability. The chances that they would hit their target and make A (or B) win are slim. In this kind of close race I'd rather advertise A as a good compromise candidate rather than presenting him as a bully whose supporters want to use whatever means to steal the victory from others. That might give better results in a tight race like this. With the given numbers it also seems that the C voters need not do anything more than just ignore the whole issue. They will win that way even if all A and B supporters (extremely improbable in large elections) would rank D second. > http://rangevoting.org/AppCW.html Condorcet yields Condorcet winners automatically. No reason to use Approval to approximate that. > http://rangevoting.org/StratHonMix.html I guess this is again a simulation where the distribution of strategic voters is assumed to be equal at both sides. What will happen if one party is more strategic than the other? Juho ___________________________________________________________ All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ---- Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info