Getting to the heart of the matter: I do not like the pattern that was used for Plurality but, anyhow, let Plurality have one.
Then have THE SAME voters vote Range and Condorcet. I would expect comparable vote counts - if that does not happen, tell us why On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:24:57 -0400 Warren Smith wrote: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Dave Ketchum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:51:42 -0400 you wrote: >> >> I went thru several thoughts: >> >> Did you make up the data? >> > >> > >> > --yes. >> > >> So I question the quality: >> Why is Plurality not going to be neutral, echoing data biases in the >> reported results? >> Why should Condorcet be blamed if, presented with voters biased >> toward Ns, it [produces vote counts biased toward Ns? > > > --well, the voters were not biased toward Ns - they were biased toward Ys! Quoting from the web page that I printed 3/23: "e.If 70% of the voters each have ideologies consisting of 70% Ns ..." > > However, I agree that because this IS made-up data, > it may not have a great deal of relevance to > the real world. > > As a matter of principle, though, it seems disturbing that Y-biased > voters could elect NNNN. But as a matter of practice, it perhaps is > rare enough that it has little impact. > > >> I am not claiming that the presented data could not happen, only that it >> does not represent a likely standard pattern. > > > --your claim is plausibly true. > > >> EXCEPT, it looks like selection of a collection of voters with attributes >> that wuld make them vote as you desired, rather than a random collection. > > > --definitely true. They were constructed to demonstrate the paradox > could happen. > > I would like to know more about how common this is and how serious it > can be and for which > voting methods. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] people.clarityconnect.com/webpages3/davek Dave Ketchum 108 Halstead Ave, Owego, NY 13827-1708 607-687-5026 Do to no one what you would not want done to you. If you want peace, work for justice. ---- Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info