On Aug 14, 2010, at 6:45 PM, Dave Ketchum wrote:

On Aug 14, 2010, at 2:18 PM, robert bristow-johnson wrote:

the other method, BTR-IRV (which i had never thought of before before Jameson mentioned it and Kristofer first explained to me last May), is a Condorcet-compliant IRV method. i wonder how well or poorly it would work if no CW exists. i am intrigued by this method since it could still be sold to the IRV crowd (as an IRV method) and not suffer the manifold consequences that occur when IRV elects someone else than the CW. does "BTR" stand for "bottom two runoff"? and who first suggested this method? is it published anywhere? Jameson first mentioned it here, AFAIK. the advantage of this method is that is really is no more complicated to explain than IRV, and it *does* resolve directly to a winner whether a CW exists or not. i am curious in how, say with a Smith Set of 3, this method would differ from RP or Schulze.

For Condorcet you have the N*N matrix and precinct summability but, unlike IRV, you better do nothing that involves going back to look at any ballots.

i guess you're right. i was just intrigued about this variant of IRV that is Condorcet compliant. but the actual method should be precinct summable so that leaves BTR-IRV out.

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