On 4.10.2012, at 23.53, Michael Ossipoff wrote:

>> I think you recommended Symmetrical ICT for informational polling. I guess 
>> you like and trust it within that framework.
> 
> I like and trust Symmetrical ICT within every framework.
> 
> In official public elections, I like and trust Symmetrical ICT.
> 
> What I don't trust, in official public elections is the people who own
> and operate the machines that do the machine balloting, and the
> computerized counting. That's the "trust" reason why I don't propose
> any rank-balloting method for official public elections.

We went through this already once. My opinion was that machine balloting can be 
avoided if needed. Computerized counting is not a problem if the (securely 
recorded) ballots are public, or if many parties can double-check the results.

>>> We've agreed to disagree
>>> about which one of us has more familiarity with and contact with
>>> American voters.
>> 
>> I disagree. :-)
> 
> Do you mean that you disagree, in keeping with our agreement to
> disagree, or do you mean that you don't agree that you agreed to
> disagree.

Wasn't it an agreement that we disagree? If it wasn't then I must disagree now. 
:-)

> 
> If it is the latter, then do you disagree that you agree to disagree
> because you agree?

You are deviating to the actual content. I'm certain I'd disagree also without 
this disagreement. :-)

> 
> If so, then you agree with me about which one of us has more
> familiarity and contact with American voters.

I think we already quite certainly agree to disagree. And that's an agreement 
that we can agree. :-)

Juho



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