Hi all, :-) I have been a member of this group for a long time, but I have not posted a lot here. I very much appreciate the courtesy of the moderator in allowing me to cross post this here. I hope it will be of benefit. This post is mainly in response to a question a member just asked on SmartStim.com about what is a triphase adapter, actually? I posted there what I believe is a definitive answer, and you will see below the answer I gave. But first I want to let everyone know what to expect and what not to expect of me for the indefinite future. :-) After EES went down I was depressed for awhile. Or you could say I was in mourning. Actually I still am in mourning, but I "know" that will pass with time. Anyway I have been hoping that there would come a time soon when I could start reading all or most of the technical posts at one of our sites, at least. It has become obvious to me now that I am not going to be able to do that any time soon. Other aspects of my life have continued to intensify, recently. That is not necessarily a bad thing for me at the moment, taking everything into consideration. But it is the way it is. What I expect to do for now is to visit all the estim groups of which I am a member whenever I can. If something grabs my eye and I have time to say something I think is helpful then I will. Like the one below. Private emails: Private emails are very welcome. I love hearing from you. But. If you are writing to request advice of some sort please take the following steps: First post your question in a group. Then send me an email with the URL to your question. I will try to answer as soon as I can, for whatever my answer may be worth. If I don't know then when I have time I will say I don't know and make whatever suggestion I can for finding out. I'm not promising anything about how quickly I will be able to respond. *L* But if I am going to take the time to answer then I would like to do it where my time might benefit more than one person. :-) Eros_tek: The engineer originally known on line as eros_tek has been an extremely significant and influential member of our community for nearly five years now. In a nutshell, eros_tek has made immense and ongoing contributions to our ability to answer technical questions clearly and accurately. Over the years there have been a few very involved and highly technical arguments there between and among eros_tek and a few other members of our community who have also appeared to be highly educated and intelligent. I am not qualifed to judge the outcome of the argument about the relative importance of high duty cycle versus low duty cycle stim current sources or about the capacitative effects of the skin/electrode interface. I can only say that if anyone has caused eros_tek any serious embarrassment so far I am not aware of it. Traditionally anyone always been welcome to contribute in our community, and certainly others besides eros_tek have made huge contributions. Some will recall that I posted a list of on EES those I remembered and invited additions to my list. That may be gone now. Anyone could. Many did. Those who did, did. Those who did not, did not. In the early days it was WWQuestor, Sybianne_1, ganchome, and I who decided together that we were going to call on eros_tek if we thought he could help with technical questions to which we didn't know the answers. He had appeared friendly and informative in response to our email questions about the brand new Eros Tek boxes we had bought ourselves, and at first we didn't know anyone else who even pretended to his level of expertise on our topic of interest here. :-) I was the most technically qualified of all the moderators, and I am only a home hobbyist. To understand fully and completely how eros_tek came to be important only requires that you read the archives of the original Yahoo Electrostimulation/Electrostim Clubs that can be found in text file compiliations in the files section at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/electrostim2 , in the documents section at http://groups.msn.com/electrosexclub , in my briefcase at http://briefcase.yahoo.com/el_ay_es , and in a couple of other places. The posts are also in a php forum database at http://www.eroticelectrostimmag.com . I give Ishtaria great credit for having done that back in 2001. But the text files are easier to skim, and they're not that huge. If you do read those archives you will see that there are familiar names. I am not going to start mentioning them. But you will see that some of the people who were helping all of us and particularly "newcomers to our sport" are still helping all of us and "newcomers to our sport" now. So what's the point about eros_tek anyway? The point is, some of us have written and asked for help from eros_tek in the past. In an email or PM give the URL to the public question that you want help with. As far as I know eros_tek is still willing to respond, although perhaps not with the detail that he has in the past. That was a lot of work to ask anyone to do over completely. We all know eros_tek works for a commercial company, the company that makes Eros Tek boxes. My opinion is that in his case that is something to be proud of. He is a stimmer himself, since he was a teenager I believe. I ask you to be polite to someone who has become a friend. Member eros-tek has stated at various times that "the company," which I believe includes him and others, does not want him to participate in forums where there is a lot of stereostim discussion. They feel that the vast majority of home hobbyists are unqualified to build safe equipment even with clear directions and that there might be some liability for Eros Tek in being associated. So let Eros Tek make its choices there. But there's never any harm in asking for help with a question. Just be polite, as to any friend. OK, nuff of that. :-) love and happy stimming to all, LAS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/electrostim2 http://groups.msn.com/electrosexclub http://www.eroticelectrostimmag.com http://www.smartstim.com http://briefcase.yahoo.com/el_ay_es ------ What is a triphase adapter (adaptor)? Being my response to a question from a new member at Smartstim.com this morning :-) ------- ------- QUESTION: > ...or is this just a wire with some funny configuration? A triphase adapter is just a wire with a funny configuration. The commercial triphase adapter that I think Sextek.com still sells (among other dealers now probably), is nicely done, and I use one that I got as part of a deal with a used ET-312. But I would never pay $49 for one. To make the funny wire configuration yourself, start with the two standard wire pair leads that come with the Eros Tek two channel boxes. Each has a 3.5 mm two conductor plug. Each has two wires separated by insulation. One of the two wires in each connects to the tip of a 3.5mm plug. The other wire in the pair connects to the metal ring or base of the plug. Without either using a continutity tester or taking the plug apart to look, you can't tell which wire goes to the tip and which to the base, inside the little plug. BUT: Contrary to what you might think, which wire is which does not matter with Eros Tek products, per Eros Tek on EES. Stay with me here, the rest is an important qualification to what I just said. A "triphase adapter" joins one of the wires from one channel and one of the wires from the second channel together into one plug to be connected to one electrode. So you end up with three plugs total, not four, to be connected to three electrodes, not four. Now follow along here: *L* The standard leads either have a colored stripe on the insulation on one of the the two wires or two different colored plugs to connect to electrodes, or both. You don't need to determine how the plugs are wired inside, but you do need to be consistent in which wire you are going to join together with a wire from the other pair into a single plug to connect to just one electrode. In other words, use the two striped or the two plains or remove either the two black plugs or the two red plugs, etc. to connect to the single plug. If you read this carefully I think you'll see it's simple. If not I will try again. Eros Tek is the only manufacturer I know of that has stated specifically, speaking of the ET-312, that the actual polarity of the wires is irrelevant to the result, that what is important is that the two being joined be the same. But the same may also apply to other boxes with isolated channels. I myself would not hesitate to try the same thing with a medical TENS unit as long as the box specifications included the words "isolated channels." The actual polarity certainly does matter with stereostim and other boxes such as the PES and Folsom PSG-202 boxes that have an internal common (or sometimes "ground") connection between one wire from each of the two "channels" inside the box. There I would only make an adapter like this using the two wires that I was sure--by looking or by using a continuity tester--are already common (or connected) inside the box. Three electrode configurations are what I have been using mostly for a long time now. The triphphase effects that Eros Tek advertises in the ET-312 only come on in the Phase1, Phase2, and Phase3 modes and maybe in the Audio3 audio input mode. A "triphase adapter"-- commercial or homemade--doesn't matter which--is required to get that "triphase effect." But the three electrode configuration is great with all the modes. Voice of experience here. :-) LAS P.S. Before anyone asks, no, do NOT join the two wires from both channels together onto just two electrodes. Eros Tek expressed a bit of concern with that. I've never tried it myself, and I won't. I'm afraid of what it might do to my box. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Dying to be thin? Anorexia. 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