Rico, The problem is that currently the theme is shared for all users, so you would need admin privileges to adjust this. Definitely not desirable.
I've filed the bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/plank/+bug/1053801 On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Rico Tzschichholz <ric...@t-online.de>wrote: > Cassidy, > > Plank doesn't actually support hiding the indicators. What I meant is if > elementary decides to hide them then there should be a way to unhide > them if needed. Which means the shell-plug would have to provide such an > option (toggle between a reasonable indicator size and 0) > > Am 2012-09-20 17:49, schrieb Cassidy James: > > Rico, > > > > Functionally that's the same, sure. But I think the idea is that it > > should be a setting instead of a theming hack. Users should be able to > > say, "I want to display running indicators" and flip a switch to do so. > > > > On Sep 20, 2012 10:44 AM, "Rico Tzschichholz" <ric...@t-online.de > > <mailto:ric...@t-online.de>> wrote: > > > > Setting the size to 0 is fairly the same as having them disabled. So > I > > don't really see the need in such an extra key, although adding one > is > > easy. If you insist please file an elementary-tagged bug. > > > > Rico > > > > Am 20.09.2012 01:49, schrieb Daniel Foré: > > > Well the idea is that our default apps already more-or-less behave > > like > > > this and we're kind of pushing 3rd party devs to follow along. > > > > > > But it sounds like overall there is a pretty strong desire for the > > > option to re-enable them for now. Which I think is 100% fair > > considering > > > we're in the very beginnings of this transition period. > > > > > > Rico, would it be terribly difficult to add a key to > > enable/disable the > > > running indicators instead of relying on setting their size to 0? > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Craig <webe...@gmail.com > > <mailto:webe...@gmail.com> > > > <mailto:webe...@gmail.com <mailto:webe...@gmail.com>>> wrote: > > > > > > Isn't that kind of like pulling all street signs/traffic > lights in > > > excited anticipation for the day when cars have traffic data > > > projected onto the windshield via HUD? > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Sam Tate <s...@mtate.me.uk > > <mailto:s...@mtate.me.uk> > > > <mailto:s...@mtate.me.uk <mailto:s...@mtate.me.uk>>> wrote: > > > > > > In the long run (L+1 or even L+2), I want there to be no > > > difference between an open and closed app. Computers are > fast > > > enough now (esp. with Luna) that you don't really notice > the > > > extra delay when you open an app rather than restoring from > > > Minimize. > > > I also want apps to save their state for when you re-open > > them, > > > and for the system (not the user) to handle memory > management. > > > > > > However, these are things that need not be addressed now, > > and I > > > will go into in more detail (probably with a blog post) > closer > > > to the time. > > > > > > For now, I much prefer the removal of indicators as it > > moves us > > > towards this vision. > > > > > > SamTate > > > > > > > > > On 19 September 2012 00:39, ttosttos Sa > > <ttost...@gmail.com <mailto:ttost...@gmail.com> > > > <mailto:ttost...@gmail.com <mailto:ttost...@gmail.com>>> > > wrote: > > > > > > +1 on running app indicators unless a simple, _mouse > only_ > > > expose for app windows is available (e.g. long hover > over > > > dock icon exposing running screens). There are useful > > apps > > > that don't support tabs and, even for those that do, > > you may > > > still want to run multiple windows with different > > parameters > > > (e.g. a browser with private and non-private settings). > > > Switching focus to a particular instance of an app is > > a bit > > > involved today. > > > > > > --ttosttos > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Daniel Foré > > > <dan...@elementaryos.org > > <mailto:dan...@elementaryos.org> <mailto:dan...@elementaryos.org > > <mailto:dan...@elementaryos.org>>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hey Guys, > > > > > > I've seen a few mails/reports about the current > > lack of > > > running app indicators in Luna. I wanted to get a > feel > > > for how people who have been using Luna for a > > while feel > > > about it. Namely, is this something people are > > > complaining about because they expect it and > > aren't used > > > to it yet, or is this a real problem? > > > > > > Personally, I don't miss them at all. I haven't > used > > > them for almost a year now (When Gala was just a > dream > > > haha). Luna is so good on resources that it hardly > > > matters if an app is open or not and you can > > easily see > > > if something is open from Gala's Workspace Overview > > > since minimize isn't part of our regular workflow. > But > > > it also has the added benefit of saving a few > > pixels on > > > the bottom of the dock (since our OOTB default is > > > hide-on-maximize and not intelli or autohide I > think > > > keep the dock small is still important). > > > > > > If we do decide that running app indicators are > > > important, would it be terribly difficult to make > > this a > > > switch in the desktop plug? We may need to ask > Rico to > > > add a key for this since I think we wouldn't want > to > > > have this update for every user on the system > > (since the > > > theming is currently stored globally). Because I do > > > think that there are probably a significant amount > of > > > people for which the running indicators just aren't > > > terribly useful in Luna and it could still remain > > as the > > > default. 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