David, if we did that with Noise, it should be done with every elementary application. El 19/11/2012 18:02, "David Gomes" <da...@elementaryos.org> escribió:
> I wouldn't call this a rename. The App name would be Noise, for all > effects, but it would be installed under the name of Media Player. > > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva < > dardeve...@cidadecool.com> wrote: > >> I think that translating names would only make sense if the names were >> like 'web browser, media player, and so on' else they are primary nouns >> and so not translatable. >> >> I think there is no gain in changing the name at this point, else then >> showing project immaturity. At this point the name already changed once, >> and was due to developer conflict of interests. Changing again may just >> lead to confusion and make people think that it happened again. Even >> with proper disclaimers is to easy to pass the wrong message. >> Not to mention some people contributed to a previous pool when the name >> 'noise' was selected, now a pool made in FB a contrived medium which a >> lot of good people don't use for whatever reasons they deem does not >> seem fair to the community that contributed before or the ones that >> don't use FB. >> >> Those are my two cents on this matter. >> >> On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 16:38 -0005, Benjamin VanMeggelen wrote: >> > I understand the issue with the translation. From what I understand >> > (as french being my second language) the translation from Noise to >> > french is Bruit. I'm not sure if the application titles have been (or >> > will be) translated, but if so "Bruit" gives the same proper >> > description of what Noise is in english. >> > >> > >> > On Mon, 19 Nov, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Corentin Noël <tin...@mailoo.org> >> > wrote: >> > > Okay, I disagree with you all then because in my language (french) >> > > there is two way to pronounce that : >> > > In french, and that word exists and means "problems" >> > > In english, and that is really hard because there is an double voyel >> > > (no-ise) so it's not that good for us. >> > > I let the democracy choose, but here are my two cents. >> > > >> > > Regards, >> > > Corentin Noël (tintou) >> > > >> > > Benjamin VanMeggelen a écrit : >> > > >> > > >I also agree that Noise is an appropriate name for the player. I >> > > feel that this naming scheme is most relevant to the player, as >> > > opposed to Tempo or some of the others that have been mentioned. >> > > Noise seems more generic and straight-forward as to what the app is >> > > meant to do. >> > > > >> > > >On Mon, 19 Nov, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Felix Akkermans wrote: >> > > >I also agree with Jaap. Both names are equal to me in >> > > communicational value, so definitely not worth the effort and >> > > hassle. >> > > > >> > > >On 11/19/2012 03:46 PM, Chris Triantafillis wrote: >> > > >I agree with Jaap and i'm against rename it... >> > > >Also i don't like Tempo, Noise is much better... >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >2012/11/19 Jaap Broekhuizen >> > > >Don't we already present Noise in the OS as a music player? Doesn't >> > > the icon have the purpose of showing the user what the app probably >> > > does? >> > > > >> > > >IMO "Noise" relates more to music than "Tempo" does. Also, if we >> > > are going this way with Noise because the name should directly show >> > > people what the app does, we should probably rename Geary and Midori >> > > too. And the makers of Empathy, Skype, Spotify, Steam, Firefox, >> > > Opera, Launchpad, Google Plus, Banshee, Clementine should probably >> > > have to start to think about a new name too. >> > > > >> > > >When we moved from Beatbox to our own fork the choice was made to >> > > name it "Noise". That already resulted in some confusion among the >> > > users. Renaming it again will only yet again result in more >> > > confusion. >> > > > >> > > >There will always be people who say a certain name is not good for >> > > the app, or that it is weird. The same will happen when you rename >> > > it to "Tempo", or any other name for that matter. >> > > > >> > > >IMO Noise should only be renamed if there is a really, really good >> > > reason to, and some users complaining it may sound negative is a >> > > good reason, i think. Also when you choose to rename it, the new >> > > name should be significantly better than the old name, if you want >> > > to show the confused users that it was really necessary and useful >> > > to make the change. >> > > > >> > > >Just my two cents, >> > > >Jaap >> > > > >> > > >Op ma, nov 19, 2012 at 3:14 ,David Gomes schreef: >> > > > >> > > >It's trivial to you because you know what Noise is. It's a media >> > > player, you know it. >> > > > >> > > >For people who don't, it's better if that name it is installed >> > > under in the computer is "Music Player" or something like that. It's >> > > easier for most people. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Jaap Broekhuizen | Mobiel wrote: >> > > >What is "many"? Seems like a trivial thing to me... >> > > > >> > > >-- >> > > >Jaap >> > > > >> > > >"Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff" schreef: >> > > > >> > > >>2012/11/19 Jaap Broekhuizen : >> > > >>> Is there an actual logical reason to rename Noise? >> > > >> >> > > >>"Noise" is perceived as something negative by many (the kind of >> > > people >> > > >>who are not crazy about metal or industrial), that's it AFAIK. >> > > >> >> > > >>-- >> > > >>Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff >> > > >>OS architect @ elementary >> > > >-- >> > > >Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> > > >Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >> > > >Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> > > >More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >-- >> > > >Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> > > >Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >> > > >Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> > > >More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >-- >> > > >Best Regards, >> > > >Chris Triantafillis >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >-- >> > > >Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> > > >Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >> > > >Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> > > >More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Darcy Brás da Silva <dardeve...@cidadecool.com> >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >
-- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
