Checkboxes always worked for me. I don't think the touchscreen revolution is responsible for the transition to switches (a checkbox is no less user friendly than a switch afaik). On May 24, 2013 1:31 PM, "Jakob Eriksson" <ja...@aurorasystems.eu> wrote:
> > Which I find incredibly confusing, at least on iOS. > More than once I have misread it for its opposite. > > (It doesn't help that it seems to be pretty hard to "get > a hold of" on iPhone, but that is another matter. > > I am not very fond of Xylons idea or skeumorphic stuff > in general. To me the whole idea of skeumorphic is a > false dicomoty between the "real" world and the "computer" > world. Increasingly, the "real" world is computer > controlled or interacts with computer interfaces. > > To a child born now, a picture of a light bulb is almost > as quaint and old as a picture of kerosene lamp. > > There is no "skeumorphic". There is only "familiarity" > (from any kind of experience) and "clarity". > > We can draw on familiarity, but only so far. When > familiarity, we need at least clarity. So whatever > we do, we should make it very clear that there is a > difference. > > Since we talk about the ON/OFF button, we could hint > not only with the button itself, but we could strike > out the text describing the option we are turning off, > or making the text gray, or any number of things. > > I started this mini-rant because I got worked up when > someone brought the iOS on/off widget as an example > of good design. It's not horrible, but it's far from > good. > > > The iOS interface in general and as a whole, I think, > is pretty good. > But it's not because it's skeumorphic, but rather > because it is coherently designed and has few ways > to interact with it, easily learned. Two year olds > master the GUI and it's not because the draw on their > knowledge of spiral bound note books and other > "skeumorphic" interface hints. > > Also the iOS interface absolutely *depends* on the > input touch digitizer being very good. The iOS interface > would be utterly *useless* on some of the low resolution, > both in dpi and sample rate, many of the cheaper > Android phones use. An aspect often overlooked in UI > design, IMHO. > > On the desktop we thankfully have a very high speed, > high resolution input device called "the mouse". > On the other, do we account for people with cheap laptops > and really bad (too sensitive? dirty? small?) touchpad > input devices? > > Is our interface great with those input devices too? > > > > > On May 24, 2013 at 5:36 PM "Alfredo Hernández" <aldomann.desi...@gmail.com > > > wrote: > > The one implemented in elementary OS, iOS, GNOME, OS X, Android... The > > on/off switcher is becoming a new standard since touch devices started > > becoming a new frontier for UX design. > > "It has become a standard in modern operating systems" > > > > Ehem...this is me being stupid, but what is the standard switch in > current > > modern operating systems anyway? > > > > > > On 24 May 2013 15:15, Alfredo Hernández <aldomann.desi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > The current one is clear enough and It has become a standard in modern > > > operating systems. I don't see the need to change it. > > > > > > Regards. > > > On 24 May 2013 13:09, "A. "Xylon" V." <avlabs...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> I have an idea for a new GtkSwitch image in the eGtk theme. See the > > >> attached file. > > >> > > >> This new GtkSwitch is skeuomorphic, and more intuitive from a user's > POV > > >> (I think anyway). The user can immediately tell what to do, as they > can > > >> relate to a light switch in real life, and therefore know the > clicking on > > >> it will turn the option on/off. This is not as obvious in the current > > >> switch. > > >> > > >> However, I am not sure if this is possible to implement in Gtk3 css. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> My blog, yeaaah! <http://skeptichacker.wordpress.com> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > > >> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > > >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > > >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > >> > > >> > > > > > > -- > > My blog, yeaaah! <http://skeptichacker.wordpress.com> > > -- > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > > Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >
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