That's tricky, because nowhere in IEx ends-up loading multiple dot_iex
files, so it would be a departure. But you can always emulate multiple
files with import_if_available.

On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 9:26 PM Chris Miller <camiller...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think that would get us pretty close to the behavior I was hoping for -
> but I was generally hoping that instead of taking precedence over an
> existing dot-iex configured file it could be used in addition to the
> existing dot-iex file.  This might be hyper specific to my individual
> workflow, but I was hoping that we could add a feature to allow for
> application level configuration while also still using the existing dot-iex
> files to provide local configuration
>
> An example would be that we would use the new application level
> configuration to import some helper function and cat out some introduction
> / instruction to the prompt, while the local would be some functions or
> data that I as a developer have around for development / debugging but are
> very specific to my development.
>
> What are your thoughts on this multi-file configuration?
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 2:19 PM José Valim <jose.va...@dashbit.co> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, we can add a IEx.configure(dot_iex: "..."), which takes precedence
>> over the other ones if set. And we should read it in the same place we read
>> everything else.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 9:08 PM Chris Miller <camiller...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I hadn't considered the config, but thats an interesting thought - not
>>> entirely sure if I totally get your though on the matter, but I was able to
>>> extend the IEx.Config to track a new key (:configuration_files) and then
>>> extended the IEx.Evaluator to pull that value from the config and load the
>>> configured files plus the `.iex.exs` file.  This allows the feature to be
>>> used either through a call to `IEx.configure/1` before the evaluator
>>> starts, or the config can be added into any config file, which would allow
>>> you to easily swap config files per env if desired
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 6, 2024 at 1:50:44 PM UTC-5 José Valim wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wonder if you could call something like "IEx.configure(...)" from the
>>>> top of your mix.exs and that would be enough to configure its location. Or
>>>> maybe it would only require a small tweak to make it work.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 8:22 PM Chris Miller <camil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Actually - I am a little confused by the startup dependencies between
>>>>> mix and iex as it seems like the Evaluator is starting after mix (or at
>>>>> least that how it appears in my tests), this patch to the IEx.Evaluator
>>>>> seems to accomplish what I was hoping to achieve (but it does make IEx
>>>>> depend on Mix which may have been something you wanted to avoid, but
>>>>> perhaps there is some more abstract way of getting this information from
>>>>> the mix project to the evaluator)
>>>>>
>>>>> ```elixir
>>>>>   defp load_dot_iex(state, path) do
>>>>>     candidates =
>>>>>       if path do
>>>>>         [path]
>>>>>       else
>>>>>         # Do not assume there is a $HOME
>>>>>         for dir <- [".", System.get_env("IEX_HOME") ||
>>>>> System.user_home()],
>>>>>             dir != nil,
>>>>>             do: dir |> Path.join(".iex.exs") |> Path.expand()
>>>>>       end
>>>>>
>>>>>     mix_config_file =
>>>>> List.wrap(Mix.Project.get().cli()[:iex_configuration_file])
>>>>>
>>>>>     candidates
>>>>>     |> Enum.filter(&File.regular?/1)
>>>>>     |> Enum.take(1)
>>>>>     |> Enum.concat(mix_config_file)
>>>>>     |> Enum.reduce(state, fn path, state ->
>>>>>       eval_dot_iex(state, path)
>>>>>     end)
>>>>>   end
>>>>> ```
>>>>> Once again - sorry for the noise if this in not a feature you are
>>>>> interested in introducing!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, June 6, 2024 at 12:43:09 PM UTC-5 Chris Miller wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the reply Jose!  The dependency order makes sense as an
>>>>>> issue with my initial thought - one other approach is that a project 
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> define its own method of configuring IEx if there were a hook to allow 
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> - looking at the IEx.Evaluator I was able to make a pretty small patch to
>>>>>> allow for this type of configuration by adding a new public function and
>>>>>> extending the `loop` function
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ```elixir
>>>>>>   @spec load_dot_iex(pid, pid, String.t()) :: :ok | :error
>>>>>>   def load_dot_iex(evaluator, server, path) do
>>>>>>     ref = make_ref()
>>>>>>     send(evaluator, {:load_dot_iex, server, ref, self(), path})
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     receive do
>>>>>>       {^ref, result} -> result
>>>>>>     after
>>>>>>       5000 -> :error
>>>>>>     end
>>>>>>   end
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   defp loop(%{server: server, ref: ref} = state) do
>>>>>>     receive do
>>>>>>       {:eval, ^server, code, counter, parser_state} ->
>>>>>>         {status, parser_state, state} = parse_eval_inspect(code,
>>>>>> counter, parser_state, state)
>>>>>>         send(server, {:evaled, self(), status, parser_state})
>>>>>>         loop(state)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       {:fields_from_env, ^server, ref, receiver, fields} ->
>>>>>>         send(receiver, {ref, Map.take(state.env, fields)})
>>>>>>         loop(state)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       {:value_from_binding, ^server, ref, receiver, var_name,
>>>>>> map_key_path} ->
>>>>>>         value = traverse_binding(state.binding, var_name,
>>>>>> map_key_path)
>>>>>>         send(receiver, {ref, value})
>>>>>>         loop(state)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       {:variables_from_binding, ^server, ref, receiver, var_prefix} ->
>>>>>>         value = find_matched_variables(state.binding, var_prefix)
>>>>>>         send(receiver, {ref, value})
>>>>>>         loop(state)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       # NEW RECEIVE CASE TO LOAD A DOT IEX FILE PROGRAMMATICALY
>>>>>>       {:load_dot_iex, ^server, ref, receiver, path} ->
>>>>>>         next_state = load_dot_iex(state, path)
>>>>>>         send(receiver, {ref, :ok})
>>>>>>         loop(next_state)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       {:done, ^server, next?} ->
>>>>>>         {:ok, next?}
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       {:done, ^ref, next?} ->
>>>>>>         {:ok, next?}
>>>>>>     end
>>>>>>   end
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that combining this overriding the default mix task would
>>>>>> allow for the type of configuration that I was hoping to achieve - or if
>>>>>> there is desire for this functionality a small change could be 
>>>>>> incorporated
>>>>>> into mix to do this as a feature using
>>>>>> `project.cli()[:iex_configuration_file]` or something of the sort.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you don't think any of this is necessary in Elixir proper I can
>>>>>> move my work towards something at the project level, but wanted to see if
>>>>>> there was any interest in upstreaming this concept
>>>>>> On Thursday, June 6, 2024 at 11:40:51 AM UTC-5 José Valim wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Chris, thanks for writing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > • will be used when `iex` is run from that directory not in the
>>>>>>> context of that mix project
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The reason this happens is exactly because IEx starts before Mix, so
>>>>>>> we can't  use Mix to configure IEx. And I think that will get in the 
>>>>>>> way of
>>>>>>> your proposal too. I hope this helps narrow down a bit the paths to 
>>>>>>> explore.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 4:23 PM Chris Miller <camil...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Currently we use the `dot-iex` file to configure an iex shell.  The
>>>>>>>> `dot-iex` file that gets loaded is the first of these three things 
>>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>>> • --dot-iex PATH command line argument supplied to the iex command
>>>>>>>> • '.iex.exs' file in the directory that iex is run from
>>>>>>>> • '.iex.exs' file in directory found in the env var "IEX_HOME" OR
>>>>>>>> the users home directory
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The issue I am facing currently is that project level shell
>>>>>>>> configuration is hard to manage in a way that achieves these goals
>>>>>>>> • will apply configuration when running a shell in the context of a
>>>>>>>> particular (mix) project
>>>>>>>> • will allow for a developer to apply their own particular
>>>>>>>> customization
>>>>>>>> • does not require any additional scripts / arguments to start the
>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Existing partial solutions for a project level iex configuration
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> • create and commit a `.iex.exs` file for the project
>>>>>>>> -- PROS:
>>>>>>>>    • the file will be loaded when `iex -S mix` is run
>>>>>>>>    • configuration can be specific to the project as it is part of
>>>>>>>> the source code written for the project and tracked through whatever 
>>>>>>>> svc is
>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>> -- CONS:
>>>>>>>>     • does not allow for an individual developer to include their
>>>>>>>> own configuration as expected (you could add an
>>>>>>>> `import_if_avaiable(".dev.iex.exs")` line to the project level 
>>>>>>>> `.iex.exs`
>>>>>>>> file to allow for this extension, but it makes the file name arbitrary 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> could cause some confusion)
>>>>>>>>     • will be used when `iex` is run from that directory not in the
>>>>>>>> context of that mix project
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> • create a project specific configuration file and use the
>>>>>>>> --dot-iex command line arg
>>>>>>>> -- PROS:
>>>>>>>>     • does not interfere with running `iex` outside of the context
>>>>>>>> of the mix project
>>>>>>>>     • can load additional configuration files by include
>>>>>>>> `import_if_avaiable` statements
>>>>>>>> -- CONS:
>>>>>>>>     • Requires including the --dot-iex arg when running the `iex -S
>>>>>>>> mix` command, which is prone to being forgotten, this could be wrapped 
>>>>>>>> in a
>>>>>>>> very simple start script, but you would still need to remember to run 
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> (I work with a largish number of elixir services and having individual
>>>>>>>> start scripts or args per project can be cumbersome to remember)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think an ideal solution would be a way to configure a mix project
>>>>>>>> to load a particular configuration file that will be loaded when the
>>>>>>>> IEx.Evaluator starts IN ADDITION to the existing `dot-iex` file 
>>>>>>>> options.  I
>>>>>>>> believe this would allow for maintainers of a project to normalize some
>>>>>>>> shell configuration while still allowing developers the full ability 
>>>>>>>> to add
>>>>>>>> their own configuration while also keeping the workflow of starting the
>>>>>>>> shell more standardized across projects.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A secondary goal might be that this could be incorporated into
>>>>>>>> releases as well so that the `./bin/project remote` and similar 
>>>>>>>> commands
>>>>>>>> could also load some particular configuration
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for any thoughts you had, and if I missed any
>>>>>>>> existing options for this type of configuration, let me know!
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