I may do that --Zach ᐧ
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 11:17 PM, OvermindDL1 <overmind...@gmail.com> wrote: > Well get to PR'ing into `elm-mdl`, or make a new one based on `elm-parts` > (which is what `elm-mdl` is built off of)? ^.^ > > > On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 12:22:31 PM UTC-6, Zachary Kessin wrote: >> >> I for one would love to see a really nice nestable component library >> somewhat similar to the good parts of ExtJS in elm. The problem is that I >> think how to do that with a great API and in a type safe way is probably >> not as obvious as I think it is. I think it would need to have someone put >> 12-18 months of work into it to get it going. >> >> I at least can not do that even if Ihad the skills >> >> Zach >> ᐧ >> >> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 8:06 PM, Peter Damoc <pda...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I'll venture a personal opinion regarding your 4 questions: >>> >>> 1. Elm compiles to something like ECMAScript3 so... no modules in the >>> output. Also, the JS output is designed to me more like an assembly kind of >>> thing and it is planned to maybe someday move beyond JS. I don't think that >>> Elm output was designed to be used as a library from JS. >>> >>> 2. This is an issue for the minimizer. You can import your icons module, >>> use the 3 you need and the minimizer should remove the ones you are not >>> using. In other words, currently, Elm will include everything but it will >>> do it in such a way that tools like Closure compiler can remove the unused >>> stuff. >>> >>> 3. Hot reloading / Hot swapping used to work in the old elm-reactor and >>> will make a comeback RealSoonNow™. >>> >>> 4. Elm favors doing things the right way and CSS is a very complex topic >>> so I guess it got on the back-burner. I have tried to start discussions on >>> this subject before and there was simply not enough interest. There is a >>> huge opportunity to do something interesting in that domain but that would >>> involve designing a very large scale API and I've lost hope that we will >>> see this in a foreseeable future. There is however an opportunity here: you >>> can start a discussion about an approach that you might find >>> intriguing/useful. >>> >>> Now, considering the title you picked for this topic, I want to point >>> something else out. >>> Elm doesn't have an official approach to building something like an UI >>> toolkit (frequently used components library). >>> This in itself is a very complex topic with a lot of moving parts that >>> might have also ended up on the back-burner. >>> >>> The topic of components keeps resurfacing quite frequently and what I've >>> seen so far is mostly a downplay of the issue. >>> >>> People who want to implement webapps with simple, CSS only, >>> components/widgets can use an external CSS and classes in elm-lang/html. >>> People who want more sophisticated components/widgets are out of luck. >>> Either they need to use a hack like elm-parts that uses techniques >>> actively discouraged by Evan or they submit to a world of boilerplate. >>> I even went so far as to create an example of this boilerplate: >>> https://github.com/pdamoc/elm-boilerplate-example >>> It generated a small discussion on Slack but... no other effect. >>> >>> I guess people are using Elm to implement either CSS only kind of >>> webapps with dynamic content served by Elm OR they have figured out how to >>> integrate sliders, date pickers, light-boxes, dropdowns and other amenities >>> available in the JS driven toolkits (I could not figure that out as I don't >>> have a JS background). >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 6:49 PM, suttlecommakevin <suttleco...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> *Forgive me if I have missed something or am asking about something >>>> that's been reposted frequently.* >>>> >>>> Let's use a simple example: a custom set of SVG icons, for use in >>>> Buttons. >>>> Here are my rookie questions: >>>> >>>> *Is the Elm compiler: * >>>> >>>> 1. aware of ES6 modules? >>>> - asking this because I'm not sure how one would consume these in >>>> an otherwise Elm-unaware env. >>>> 2. able to do code splitting? >>>> - The use case here being: I don't want a user to have to >>>> download 100 SVG icons in one JS file if there are only 3 being used >>>> on a >>>> page. >>>> 3. able to do hot reloading? >>>> - Just curious here >>>> 4. ready to start supporting CSS as a 1st class-citizen? >>>> - Seems like if Elm is the front-end language of the future, it >>>> can't be missing 1/3 of the stack. >>>> - I am aware of Richard and others' efforts, and am willing to >>>> help <http://kevinsuttle.com/posts/css-modules-a-review>. >>>> >>>> >>>> Let's just leave it at that for now. Curious what the responses will >>>> be. >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Elm Discuss" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to elm-discuss...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> There is NO FATE, we are the creators. >>> blog: http://damoc.ro/ >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Elm Discuss" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to elm-discuss...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Zach Kessin >> SquareTarget <http://squaretarget.rocks?utm_source=email-sig> >> Twitter: @zkessin <https://twitter.com/zkessin> >> Skype: zachkessin >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Elm Discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to elm-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Zach Kessin SquareTarget <http://squaretarget.rocks?utm_source=email-sig> Twitter: @zkessin <https://twitter.com/zkessin> Skype: zachkessin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Elm Discuss" group. 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