Here:

Is length*mass torque or momentum?
>

I think the quantities you meant to compare are torque and energy (both of
which have units of force*length).

The only reason I bring it up is because it points to some interesting
design problems. Energy is always a scalar (one numeric component). Torque,
although sometimes expressed as a scalar or a vector, is actually best
represented as a bivector (two components per spatial dimension in whatever
system we are looking at).

This is a case where we can reduce the risk of a wrong *interpretation* by
choosing a good *representation*. We're used to this idea as programmers,
but I think sometimes it goes unappreciated in physics.

(It's also a situation where introducing *redundancy *into our
representation is a good idea. Bivectors (like quaternions) can be equal
even if their components are unequal. Adding redundant information to the
data structure actually makes the calculation easier and interpretation
clearer!)

The idea of representing units with phantom types is new to me. I will
definitely be playing with this!

~Nick

On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 7:12 PM, Max Goldstein <maxgoldste...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> As John Kelly pointed out to me in another thread, there's a trick called
> a "phantom type" that's possible in Elm. It's where a union type has a type
> variable that's not used on the right side. If you don't expose the
> constructor, you can use the type to only allow values that have come
> through other functions. Here's an example:
>
> -- the Phantom Type
> type Measurement a
>     = M Float
>
> -- "dummy" types
> type Length = Length
> type Width = Width
> type Area = Area
>
> add : Measurement a -> Measurement a -> Measurement a
> add (M a) (M b) =
>     M (a + b)
>
> multiply : Measurement Length -> Measurement Width -> Measurement Area
> multiply (M a) (M b) =
>     M (a * b)
>
>
> I've been thinking about how to make these guarantees, there was a recent
> ThoughtBots post on it, and I'm not sure anyone has seen this before.
> Building out a whole system of measurement this way seems really tedious,
> but for a smaller and more specific problem, it might be a valuable
> technique to know about.
>
> Note that this only works if it's impossible to create a polymorphic type,
> e.g. *Measurement a*, because that will get unified with whatever type is
> expected by the annotation. If every Measurement value is concrete, it
> can't be passed in the wrong place.
>
> As I've been thinking about this, I've seen multiple orthogonal pieces of
> information that we sometimes sloppily roll up into the type:
>
>    - The *representation*, the storage of bits in memory, such as IEEE
>    floating point or 64-bit integer.
>    - The *dimension*, in the physics sense, such as length*mass.
>    - The *interpretation*. Is it length or width or height? Is
>    length*mass torque or momentum?
>    - The *units*, such as meter*kilograms.
>
> When dealing with a discrete case -- the classic example is not mixing up
> rows and columns in a grid/table -- we need the representation and the
> interpretation (rows or columns), but units and dimensions seem not to
> apply. Similarly, if we want to distinguish between strings (URLs, IDs,
> escaped and unescaped HTML, and so on), we seem to want the same things.
>
> It might be interesting to have a wrapped String library that would
> perform the typical operations on strings with type-level identifiers, so
> when you require an ID (aliased to WrapedString IDType) you can only get
> one that's been through your validator. Or you could build URL-specific
> abstractions like *Url.join : Url -> List String -> Url*.
>
> So, just a neat idea not everyone is aware of, hopefully someone finds it
> interesting or useful.
>
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