It's ambiguous, I also imagine it means avoiding:

this.x = 123

But then again, why do you need 'this' in the first place? In Elm you can
access anything in scope in the module.

I suppose this is useful for accessing class stuff which isn't in your
immediate method scope... which again leads you down something like ideas
around local (object) mutable state...

Good question!

On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 at 10:15 Peter Damoc <pda...@gmail.com> wrote:

> "this" is associated with mutation. Elm is an immutable language.
>
> In theory, one could have immutable objects where data and logic are
> grouped together.
> The best expression I've seen so far is the FauxO system in Gary
> Bernhardt's Boundaries talk.
>
> Something like this would constitute a non-trivial expansion of the
> language and, as far as I can understand it, there are other priorities.
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Dave Ford <df...@smart-soft.com> wrote:
>
>> There is a line from the docs that I am trying to understand: "Elm
>> encourages a strict separation of data and logic, and the ability to say
>> this is primarily used to break this separation. This is a systemic
>> problem in Object Oriented languages that Elm is purposely avoiding."
>>
>> What is the systemic problem being reference? Is it the [lack of] "separation
>> of data and logic" or "the ability to say this"?
>>
>> I have been programming in Java (an OO language) for a long time. I can
>> name dozens of systemic problems in the language. But the ability to say
>> "this" is not one of them. Nor is it the commingling of data and logic.
>>
>> Please help me to understand what the author is talking about.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Side note: "this" *is* a problem in JavaScript. But not in OO generally.
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