...whereas for me working with elm is a pleasure because of its simplicity. I subscribe to the sorts of ideas in articles like: Creativity: How Constraints Drive Genius <https://www.forbes.com/sites/groupthink/2013/07/12/creativity-how-constraints-drive-genius/#2feac2fa3d89>. I've produced creative things in plain old javascript (and other languages) but doing so in elm is so much more fun, interesting - and productive.
On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 11:27:26 AM UTC+1, John Orford wrote: > > that's v true - perhaps programmers are are too prone to idealism... but > then again, it's a perk of the job ; ) > > On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 at 12:14 Peter Damoc <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > >> Reality is prickly-goo and gooey-prickles >> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4vHnM8WPvU>. >> >> Elm sins by seeing reality too much from a prickly point of view. >> You can call this opinionated but if it is taken to an extreme, you get >> the symptoms typical to a prickly system, the main one being the stifling >> of creativity. >> Creative people are gooey and they don't thrive in an environment that is >> too prickly. >> >> Also, businesses need gooey stuff because they deal with reality not with >> some abstract world of ideas. >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:19 PM, John Orford <[email protected] >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> I think Elm is a very opinionated language - which lends itself to love >>> & hate : ) Which is a good thing - languages in which you can do anything >>> and everything are guey slimey things... >>> >>> On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 at 18:36 Charles Scalfani <[email protected] >>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>> >>>> Back in the day when Java was all the rage, I used to ask 2 interview >>>> questions of developers: >>>> >>>> >>>> 1. What do you love about Java? >>>> 2. What do you hate about Java? >>>> >>>> I never cared what the answer was to #1. It turns out that they simply >>>> listed all of the things that people who promoted Java mentioned, >>>> write-once-run-anywhere, etc. >>>> >>>> It was #2 that I was really interested in. Many developers couldn't >>>> think of a single thing. That told me that they didn't know Java. At the >>>> time, I could've talked for an hour about all the things that were wrong >>>> with Java (and still are). Why? Because I really knew the language. And >>>> familiarity breeds contempt. >>>> >>>> This article feels like the answer to #1 by someone who really doesn't >>>> know the language yet or at least hasn't built anything real or large with >>>> it. >>>> >>>> Don't get me wrong I love Elm but it's not perfect (no language is). >>>> >>>> I'd hope that your articles include the good, bad and the ugly. By >>>> doing so, you will help more people understand if Elm is right for them in >>>> a balanced way. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, October 23, 2017 at 11:02:11 AM UTC-7, >>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I'm a developer and founder of an agency specialised in digital >>>>> product development. >>>>> >>>>> This summer we've decided to do some experimentation with Elm and >>>>> we'll be summarising the findings in a series of two blogposts. >>>>> >>>>> Here is the first one. Comments are welcome. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://www.imaginarycloud.com/blog/elm-javascript-reinvented-1-overview/ >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> TF >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Elm Discuss" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Elm Discuss" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> There is NO FATE, we are the creators. >> blog: http://damoc.ro/ >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Elm Discuss" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Elm Discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
