On 8/15/07, Anders Andersson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/10/07, Markus Rechberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi Anders,
> >
> > On 8/7/07, Anders Andersson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi! I just bought a Pinnacle Hybrid Pro Stick 330e, and after
> > > compiling and installing the drivers it works like a charm in Ubuntu
> > > on my ThinkPad. I do have a problem though, which I haven't been able
> > > to solve yet, because I have a bit unusual requirements.
> > >
> > > I bought this stick mainly to capture the output from old
> > > homecomputers, Amiga and Commodore 64. They are meant to be connected
> > > to a video monitor and thus output a PAL signal (I'm in europe).
> > >
> > > It works very well when the source is in interlaced format (576i),
> > > which is the normal mode for PAL, but the most common mode for these
> > > computers is to output an somewhat unstandard progressive PAL, 288
> > > lines in 50hz. Every TV or monitor I've tried with this output works
> > > without any problems (otherwise they wouldn't have designed the output
> > > like that), but unfortunately it fails with my USB stick. mplayer and
> > > TVtime reacts in pretty much the same way, by basically freezing up,
> > > without being able to find any valid signal at all.
> > >
> > > Normally I would have concluded that the chipset does not support this
> > > format at all, and considered it a waste of money, but the interesting
> > > thing here is that a friend of mine has a different USB TV-stick for
> > > his mac, called "Elgato USB Hybrid". When I put this in my ThinkPad,
> > > it showed up as a Hauppauge WinTV HVR 900, which, according to the
> > > internet, is using the same chipset as my Pinnacle (em2880). That
> > > device *could* capture the Amiga signal on the mac, but I didn't get a
> > > chance to test it in linux, due to lack of internet access at the
> > > time.
> > >
> > > Now, either one or more of this seems to be true:
> > > a) These devices does not use the same chipset after all.
> > > b) The linux driver (either em2880 or v4l2) does not support this
> feature.
> > > c) I don't know how to supply the correct parameters for TVtime or
> mplayer.
> > >
> > > So here's my hope that it's actually "c", and that someone here will
> > > be able to help me understand what the problem is and how to fix it.
> > > If you need more details, I can supply it, just tell me what to type
> > > and where. :)
> > >
> >
> > you hit the wrong ML for that issue, it should be em28xx at mcentral de
> > Did you test it with different input modes?
> > Is the device attached through RF or composite?
> >
> > The driver also receives 50 frames (with 25 odd and 25 even lines) the
> > lines are copied together in the kernel at the moment.
> > tvtime is capable of doing deinterlacing with a dscaler filter but it
> > also requires quite alot CPU power.
> >
> > As from the analogue side the Elgato device is the same device as you
> have.
> > You might also test if it works in windows.
> >
> > Markus
> >
>
>
>
> Hello! Sorry for mailing to the wrong list first, but I had really no
> idea where in the chain the problem lies. I have now done some tests,
> and the results are:
>
> * The device can capture these signals using VirtualDub in Windows XP,
> with the latest drivers from Pinnacle's website. I can capture both
> normal PAL, and the nonstandard 288 line, 50 Hz progressive PAL.
> * This works both from Composite and RF. I have no native S-Video
> output from any of them.
> * There is no difference between RF and Composite inputs in Linux,
> using either mplayer or tvtime - both programs hangs as soon as they
> get the signal. Using RF, if I start on one 'unused' channel, I get
> the expected noise. Changing channel to my Amiga RF, it hangs, and I
> have to kill it from command line.
>
>
> You write "Did you test it with different input modes?". I'm not
> really sure what you mean here, and what to change. I've tried all
> different PAL modes (PAL-G, -B etc), but since they are all mostly
> about how to encode the sound in an modulated signal, of course they
> didn't help anything.
>
> You also write "The driver also receives 50 frames (with 25 odd and 25
> even lines)". In the case of this progressive PAL, I think that there
> is actually no even fields sent. If I recall correctly (can't find any
> information online at the moment), there will be 50 'odd' frames.
> Maybe the driver is waiting for one or the other, then just stalls
> when it doesn't find it?
>
> I would be happy to do whatever it takes to help you fix this, if you want
> to!
>

So far I think it's a tvp5150 issue, I'll give you some further hints
how to debug that issue tomorrow.
I'm currently at the tuner integration so the videodecoder fixup has
to wait a bit but I'm sure you can get it work after a few
instructions by yourself ...

Markus

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