"Lennart Borgman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eli Zaretskii" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > Most applications I use on w32 have a "View" top menu. >> >> This was considered when the menu bar was restructured in preparation >> for Emacs 21.1. The conclusion, IIRC, was that View is generally >> inappropriate in a text editor, because it is not a program whose >> purpose is to show you something, in which case View selects what >> details you are being shown. > > I think that "View" here mostly is a synonym for "Appearance". In for > example Firefox View menu the main items are: > > Toolbars, Status Bar, Sidebars; > Stop, Reload; > Text Size, Page Style, Character Encoding; > Page Source, Full Screen. > > So if that was the reason not to have a View top menu then it might be time > to rethink?
"Page Source" is not exactly "Appearance". I have to admit being surprised at this usage, nevertheless. Gnumeric offers New View (generate a new frame into same "buffer") Freeze Panes Windows -> (list of available windows to jump to) Toolbars -> (list of available toolbars to enable) View Statusbar (checkmark) Full Screen Zoom This is a bit more mixed than just static appearance setup, but also carries weight in that direction. Personally, I find "View" strongly associated with viewing files, in particular in the contest of Emacs. I find "View" less appropriate for what it is used in Firefox et al than "Appearance". The one thing that speaks for "View" is that the name is shorter, taking up less space as a top item in the menu bar. But I don't think this sort of functionality would warrant a top menu item in most modes in Emacs. If for compatibility reasons or whatever it was decided to make this a top item, I'd probably also opt for "View" just for saving menu bar real space. One argument for that would be that _when_ you use this menu, you are likely to use it several times in succession until Emacs' appearance meets your needs, and then it will be tiring to go through Options/Appearance for every selection. In GTK+, you would probably just tear off the menu (if you know how to do it) for this process. But we are running short of menubar space for a typical LaTeX editing session with preview-latex, RefTeX, AUCTeX (two! top menus) and LaTeX-math-mode already. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum _______________________________________________ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel
