>>>>> "RJC" == Robert J Chassell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
RJC> Emacs is an editor ... At some point, an `editor' ceases to Nope. Emacs can do it, but doesn't do it. I think that even Microsoft Word could be programmed to do such things but I' pretty sure that nobody would call it anithing else than word mangleprocessor. RJC> People like RMS do not see any difference between changing a file RJC> name and changing a word within that file, but others do. They see the difference IMHO. They understand that they are just specializations of altering information. RJC> When RJC> you speak the word `editor' and wish to communicate, you must RJC> either tell your listener that you are using an uncommon RJC> definition, I tell them I use an uncommon Editor, that's true. RJC> As written, the definition misleads people into thinking that RJC> Emacs falls into the same category as VI or Notepad. <kidding> Putting vi side by side with notepad is unfair to vi. While is notorious that vi is penance, notepad is almost useless. Therefore vi is much more useful. </kidding> vi is a powerful editor I'm not comfortable with unless for the shortest and quickest tasks. Anyway, using vi and (a lot of) shell scripts you can implement an Emacs. RJC> Yes, indeed. That does not means that Emacs is not an integrated RJC> envirnonment; Emacs can turn into a sort of integrated environment by loading the appropriate modules (auctex, jdee), but after all is an editor that does much more than other editors do and often by delegating the work to external programs. It's a sort of integrating editor more than an integrated environment (or collection of integrated environments). Something that could be as extensible as Emacs could be Eclipse. That's an integrated environment that does it all. But Emacs does editing. If you want it does tetris, but it's goal is to edit and to do it in the most productive way, often doing it for you. The editing capabilities of Emacs are so powerful that you can put them behind its ability to integrate other software work. That's why I disagree with you. -- /\ ___ /___/\__|_|\_|__|___Gian Uberto Lauri_____________________ //--\ | | \| | Integralista GNUslamico \/ e coltivatore diretto di software _______________________________________________ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel