> Loading a file should change Emacs's state as little as possible, so the > init-value of a minor mode should *describe* (not determine) the default > state of the minor-mode (in the case where the minor-mode function is not > executed).
> I understood that. However setting the mode variable to t without > enabling the mode has some very bad consequences, to the point that I > believe it could be considered an outright bug. If the mode has a > lighter, the mode line claims that the mode is enabled, whereas it is > not, confusing the user. Even though the mode variable is non-nil, > the mode is disabled, so `M-x foo-mode' should enable it. Instead, > `M-x foo-mode' is actually a no-op in this situation, which is also > very confusing to the user. No, you did not understand, please re-read. Think about the difference between describing and determining. If without running the minor-mode function its state is inactive, then the init-state has to be nil. The init-state should only ever be t if the mode is active even without having ever run the minor-mode function. Stefan _______________________________________________ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel