Richard Stallman wrote: Because they are more complex. This is simple. It is meant for less experienced users.
Quite the opposite, fringe-indicators is very complicated. Right now, if a menu bar user wants to get the effect of setting indicate-empty-lines to t (by far the most likely thing he might want to do), he has to find it hidden in the Indicators submenu of the fringe submenu of the Show-Hide menu, where he will probably never find it and if he finds it, he has to understand the meaning of the cryptic "Empty lines only". After applying the menu bar patch I proposed, it would be _much easier_ for the menu bar user to find out how to customize indicate-empty-lines: it would be directly under Show-Hide. I doubt that less experienced users will be desperate to customize indicate-fringe-boundaries, but one could easily add the current boundary customization capability back to the menu bar using indicate-fringe-boundaries instead of fringe-indicators. Which variable we use for the menu bar is an internal issue, invisible to inexperienced menu bar users. If indicate-fringe-boundaries is really that important, I would put it directly under Show-Hide, where it is easier to find. In as far as Custom users are concerned, do `M-x customize-group fringe'. (Unfortunately, just doing this currently overrides any values you may have set for indicate-empty-lines or indicate-buffer-boundaries.) Look at the "Value Menu"'s for fringe-indicators and indicate-fringe-boundaries. Why should customizing fringe-indicators be easier? It is difficult to guess what the "empty lines" choice of fringe-indicators means. The current "Value Menu" of indicate-buffer-boundaries could easily be replaced with the Value Menu of fringe-indicators, minus "Empty Lines" and plus "Pick your own design". If a user picks the latter, he knows that he will have to do some designing and I believe that the interface he then gets is actually relatively easy to understand. (I personally like the current indicate-fringe-boundaries Value Menu better, but that is a matter of taste, obviously.) By the way, the reason why "Pick your own design" is not the last choice of the Value Menu is that "On left, no arrows" _had_ to be the last choice, because `other' has to be the last choice and any value for which indicate-fringe-boundaries has no other sense means "On left, no arrows". Sincerely, Luc. _______________________________________________ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel
