I'll see if I can make this code work for me, too. Thanks for writing
it. I think if I study it carefully, I'll learn something very useful
about scripting in emacs and in org-mode. One quick question: if I
hit C-c C-c on a "Startup" line, does org-mode run the hook again?
As far as a use case is concerned, here's my justification. I have
wanted to pick certain trees as 'most valuable/visible hierarchies'.
I do this because my top level structure looks like this:
* Short Term Projects
:VISIBILITY: Subtree
** TODO Buy Groceries :OUT:
** TODO Pay gas bill :HOME:
** PROJECT Fix Sink
*** TODO Buy Tool :OUT:
*** TODO Buy Supplies :OUT:
*** TODO Fix the sink :HOME:
*** TODO Check that leak is gone :HOME:
* Long Term Projects
:VISIBILITY: CHILDREN
** PROJECT Household Inventory
*** TODO Inventory Bedroom 1 :HOME:
*** TODO Inventory Bedroom 2 :HOME:
*** TODO Inventory Kitchen :HOME:
*** TODO Inventory Living/Dining Room :HOME:
** PROJECT Insurance
*** TODO Review coverage :HOME:
*** TODO Discuss options with advisor :PHONE:
*** TODO Discuss options with wife :HOME:
* Maybe/Someday
:VISIBILITY: FOLDED
** PROJECT RepRap
*** TODO buy parts
*** TODO build device
** PROJECT Solve World Hunger...
** PROJECT Spread World Peace...
** PROJECT Brew my own Weissebier...
* Calendar
:VISIBILITY: FOLDED
** My trip #1...
** My trip #2...
** Work Holidays...
** Vacation Days...
* Recurring Calendar
:VISIBILITY: FOLDED
** Club Meeting
<2008-01-01 Mon 20:30-22:00 +1m>
** Dentist
<2008-01-01 Mon +6m>
* Computed Calendar
:VISIBILITY: FOLDED
** Birthdays of Friends
%%(diary-anniversary 2 10 1869) Mahatma Gandhi would be %d years old
%%(diary-anniversary 1 1 1900) Dad's going to be %d!
*** TODO Buy Dad a ____. He's got to love it!
DEADLINE: <2008-12-01 Mon>
** Astronomical Dates
%%(diary-sunrise)
&%%(diary-iso-date)
&%%(diary-day-of-year)
Mostly I want the Short and Long Term projects visible and I'd like to
hide the calendars. I like to keep all this in one file because I'm
most familiar with simple emacs searching, and I'm not yet good at org-
mode/agenda searches (or global TODO lists, or tag matching, or all
that)
Since I don't work on "Solve World Hunger" everyday, I find it a
distraction (as so many people do) to look at the TODOs under that
project, so a simple TODO tree search hasn't helped me much. I know
there is more in org-mode that would fix this, but one of the big
pleasures of org-mode is how easy (easy, EASY!) it is to get started
on SOMETHING productive, without having to invest a huge shift in my
thinking. (I am working on that shift in thinking, but it has been
slow to take hold. Time to re-read the Allen book; maybe this time
I'll excise some more personal disorganizing demons)
So I'd suggest that the 'VISIBILITY' property does get added. I'd
even suggest adding another stop on the org-mode-tab-cycle chain
(FOLDED VISIBILITY-PROPERTY CHILDREN SUBTREE). I can even see feature-
creep with this, as someone may want org-mode to update the VISIBILITY
property automatically on killing/saving the buffer, so when the file
is revisited, any hand-tuned folding is recreated. Thought-
experiment: Should the VISIBILITY property be automatically inherited?
Or should we force users to add a property drawer for every tree that
will be unfolded at my suggested stop on the org-mode-tab-cycle.
It is just a suggestion. I am very open to other's suggestions of
better ways of staying on top of my trees. I'm trying to get to the
place where every headline has a context tag, a TODO state, a DEADLINE
or SCHEDULED property (if appropriate) or plain date (if not), AND is
correctly and logically placed in the existing structure. I am not
there yet.
I should add that to my Maybe/Someday tree...
no... my Long Term Project tree!
-Ben
On 2008-05-07 Wed, at 17:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 17:23:34 +0200
From: Carsten Dominik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Re: Property for startup visibility?
To: Richard KLINDA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
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On May 7, 2008, at 1:39 PM, Richard KLINDA wrote:
Thanks, but I would like to set this up on a tree-by-tree basis
(complementing the #+STARTUP option).
Hmmm, I see now what you mean. I am not convinced how useful this
would be, because I suspect that the visibility you'd like
will often change?
Something like this is easily hacked, see below. Why don't
you test it a while and then report back with a good example
and use case. Then we can make a decision about including it.
The following looks for a :visibility: property with value
"folded" or "children" or "all". Installing it in the hook will run
it after the global STARTUP visibility has been set.
- Carsten
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