Hi Edgar,

As in many other contexts, it’s important to keep the big picture in mind. As a 
grad student, is your goal to learn about your field, to do interesting 
work/research, and to eventually graduate? Or is it to defend your ideals and 
use the software you like? If it’s the second, by all means the software you 
use should be a central consideration (to the point of looking for other places 
of study, as suggested in your original post). But if it’s the first (as it 
should, IMO), then the central considerations change: is your professor 
good/nice/competent (insert your own criteria here)? Does she foster your 
work/research in productive ways? Does she give you good challenges and 
research topics? Only you can answer those questions.

You can always compromise. Not all of us get to use only the tools we like all 
day long. In my case, I like my job very much, despite the fact that I have to 
use tools like Exchange, Sharepoint and Jira. But at home, during my free time, 
I get to code and use whatever tools I want (e.g. Emacs, org-mode, Elvish, 
Hammerspoon).  I get to use some of them at work too, but I am aware that I 
have to stick to the accepted standards of communication and collaboration with 
others.

From what you say, the tools your advisor uses are the recognized/accepted ones 
for doing the work. You could try to challenge this status quo, given enough 
time and energy. But again, think about what your goals are. You have to choose 
your battles. In any case, after you graduate, you can go on an be much more 
selective about (or even, define yourself) the tools with which you work.

As a former grad student myself, I can give you two pieces of wisdom I received 
over the years, one from my Ph.D. advisor, and one from one of my colleagues. 
Both express the same feeling:

“You may think now that getting your Ph.D. is the goal, but it’s only the 
beginning. The Ph.D. only opens the door for whatever you want to do next”
“The goal of a Ph.D. is to finish it”

All the best,

—Diego


> On 18 May 2018, at 10:10, ed...@openmail.cc wrote:
> 
> On 2018-05-18 07:12, S. Champailler wrote:
>> Be aware that free software is politcally loaded. It's just not a
>> matter of having the right or best tools, it' sometimes a question of
>> ideal, that is something that is *very* hard to negociate about...
>> Moreover, if the people you work with use, say Word, it's pretty tough
>> to bring in, say Latex. Because you'll disrupt the organisation of the
>> team.
>> In the case of emacs, though, things are easier : it's made to work
>> with text files and that is quite compatible with any other
>> proprietary software. You won't affect anybody's job with that.
>> Here at my job, I don't control any of the software I use (I have to
>> use Oracle, Windows, Skype), but I can choose the software that *I*
>> use for myself. So it's a balance.
>> Changing other's mind, or methods is super hard, what you experience
>> is just the normal. It'd be nice to know why your advisor rejects free
>> software equivalents (lack of features ? fear of legal battles ?
>> organisational ...)
>> Stefan
> 
> Merci, Stefan. I have tried to understand her point, and I can dissect it 
> into:
> 
> 1. She does not see the advantage of having to learn how to use anything 
> else. It works well for her, why change and waste time on doing it?
> 
> 2. She likes and is used to the "features" of the software (today, I 
> discovered that one of these is the so-called "track changes"; I swear I have 
> tried to introduce her to Git, not that she cares).
> 
> 3. I think that she is used to the interface.
> 
> 4. She says (and I have no reason to question) that the whole department uses 
> the proprietary software that she uses. It is an imposition to others 
> (including her) to ask them to use something different.
> 
> It is only when we have to collaborate directly that the issue arises. I 
> guess that it's a similar situation as you are having (programming? she does 
> not care, I can do whatever I want; publication abstract? she wants a DOCX or 
> DOC). What I find unfathomable is that I can produce the format that she 
> needs (even with style) with free software (thanks community!), but what I 
> perceive as her reluctance to my software (or just plain miscommunication) 
> prevents her from informing me or me understanding what exactly it is that 
> she considers important. In other words, she does not seem to want to deal 
> with it in any way.
> 
> I'm sorry, I didn't want to make this very long. I hope that I explained 
> myself.
> 
> The count goes like this (so that everyone knows that I am listening, the 
> count is by far the least important):
> - Yield partially (1) :: You will have to work with proprietary software in 
> some way, but not always.
> - There is no escape (1) :: You will have to work with proprietary software
> 
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