Am Mittwoch, 19. Februar 2020, 12:30:59 CET schrieb Nicolas Goaziou: > Hello, > > Bastien <b...@gnu.org> writes: > > - Add org-tempo to org-modules > > > > Last but not least: we had long discussions about this one in the > > past. Expansion of the "<s" templates (and other "<*" templates) at > > the beginning of the line has been turned off. I have IRL met with > > Org users* who just thought the feature was broken/deleted, without > > having/taking the time/knowledge/guts to look for the things they > > can turn on. I am all for turning this on again, letting experts > > disabling the feature if they don't want it. > > > > * We have regular meetings with https://www.emacs-doctor.com/ > > This is not a good default, at least for beginners, because Org provides > a better solution out of the box. There are also better solutions > outside Org (e.g., Yasnippet). > > It is only valuable for existing users, who relied on this feature, and > don't want to switch. It's perfectly understandable, but it is also fair > to assume they can add (require 'org-module) to their own configuration. > _Removing_ the module, OTOH, is subtle. > > By the way, this does not belong to the same category as other > defcustoms discussed. This is only tangential to "how does Org should > look and feel by default". It relates to: should Org provide multiple > snippet extensions, knowing this is not a central feature, and Org is > often seen as bloated by Emacs devs? I don't think so, no matter how > useful this feature can be for some users. > > Regards,
Hello, what Bastien suggests, doesn't that lead to two ways of getting getting e.g. a quote? Either with C-c C-, or again with "<q"? #+begin_quote #+end_quote If so, I'd vote to stick for the first solution and not have both. And yes, for larger templates there is yasnippet. Just my 0.2 cents. Regards, Alexander