>>>>> Robert Horn <rjh...@panix.com> writes: > Colin Baxter writes:
>>>>>>> Robert Horn <rjh...@panix.com> writes: >> >> > Timothy writes: >> >> >> Ihor Radchenko <yanta...@gmail.com> writes: >> >> >> >> Maybe this is a good time to start a discussion about moving >> >> Org's minimum supported Emacs to 25...? >> >> > I checked Red Hat, Centos, Debian, SuSE, and Ubuntu. They are >> all > 25.1 or later in their current distributions. So that will >> > probably not cause too much breakage. >> >> > -- Robert Horn rjh...@alum.mit.edu >> >> Debian 9.13 (which is still supported) has emacs-24. > Interesting question about LTS. How far back should we consider > when estimating the impact of a change like this? I was looking > at current stable versions to estimate the impact of the change. > Lots of users avoid the bleeding edge distribution releases, but > most update to track the current stable/LTS releases. Or they > won't complain that it's unfair for org to expect them to update > emacs to the current stable/LTS version. > Ubuntu, Red Hat, CentOS and SuSE are 25.1 or above for their most > recent long term support releases. Some of these distributions go > a lot further with various forms of long term support. I think > Red Hat goes back 8 years for example, and that emacs is really > old. > It looks like 25.1 is available, but not yet the default for > Debian "stretch" (Debian 9.13), which is the "oldstable" for > Debian. With Debian backport efforts I don't know if this means > months or years. The web page for Emacs25inStretch has not > changed since 2017, so it might never happen. Debian 9.13 may be old but updates are still made available. While Debian supports the os-version and therefore by implication emacs-24, I feel org-mode shouldn't deliberately break that support.