Hello, "Bruce D'Arcus" <bdar...@gmail.com> writes:
> On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 3:41 AM Nicolas Goaziou <m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr> > wrote: >> As another, imperfect, workaround, I submit the following idea for >> consideration: >> >> "A quotation ending without punctuation" [cite: @hoel-71-whole]. >> "A quotation ending with a period"[cite: @hoel-71-whole]. >> >> IOW, the presence or absence of a space before the citation determines, >> according to a note rule, if the punctuation should go inside or outside >> the quotation. When processing non-note citations, we just need to >> ensure there is at least a space after the previous element, which is >> less "dangerous" than removing punctuation. >> >> I find it a bit too subtle, and so error-prone, but so is punctuation >> anyway. >> >> WDYT? > > Just to confirm, Nicolas, your proposal would basically say the second > example would override the default punctuation-moving behavior for the > locale? No, this behaviour is still customizable. For example, `org-cite-note-rules' would contain the following entry: ("fr" adaptive same before) where `adaptive' means the proposal above. OTOH, "en-us" would still be ("en-us" inside outside after) where the space does not matter since the punctuation always goes inside. > And for an in-text/author-date style, what would the output be with > that example? > > I, someone who may have an "en-US" bias you could say, would expect: > > "A quotation ending with a period" (Hoel, 1971). > > As in, the in-quote period would be dropped regardless, and therefore > a space would also need to be added. In any non-note situation, we just make sure the citation is preceded by a space, so the example would be equivalent to "A quotation ending without punctuation" [cite: @hoel-71-whole]. "A quotation ending with a period" [cite: @hoel-71-whole]. without moving punctuation. Does that make sense? Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou