On 2021-11-27, at 22:42, Samuel Banya <sba...@fastmail.com> wrote:

> Lol, okay. Well then, I tried to offer some advice. Good luck with MacOS.

Well, thanks - it was actually valuable.  Also - out of curiosity - what
gave you the impression I'm using MacOS???  Fun fact: I did once use an
iPad (a borrowed one) for half a day, and I found the experience
terrible enough to not come near anything Apple-related;-).

Best,
mbork


>
> Its better to keep Emacs uncaged :)
>
> On Sat, Nov 27, 2021, at 7:25 AM, Marcin Borkowski wrote:
>> 
>> On 2021-11-26, at 22:16, Samuel Banya <sba...@fastmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > Hey Marcin,
>> >
>> > There are a few options that exist, so I'm going to drop a few ideas in 
>> > this email.
>> >
>> > *"Buy A Rooted Phone" Option:*
>> > Why not just get a rooted Android phone with Replicant on it from eBay in 
>> > the first place?
>> >
>> > Then, you can use Termux to ssh into a local or cloud VPS file server 
>> > where you're hosting your .org files. Most people even use Dropbox (or 
>> > SyncThing, whatever floats your boat).
>> >
>> > Worst case scenario, you can maybe just run a terminal version of Emacs on 
>> > the rooted Android phone (or even your current non-rooted phone), and 
>> > clock in like that.
>> 
>> Well, doesn't that have the same security issue I mentioned?
>> 
>> > If you're on iOS though... well... maybe its time to get out of the walled 
>> > garden?
>> 
>> Of course not.
>> 
>> > *"Just Use A Laptop" Option:*
>> > I'd say maybe just get a laptop, put some decent Linux distro on it, and 
>> > use Emacs on that instead.
>> 
>> Out of question.  I need this exactly for the times when I cannot use my 
>> laptop.
>> 
>> > Worst case scenario, you can maybe just run a terminal version of Emacs on 
>> > the rooted Android phone, and clock in like that.
>> >
>> > *Bash Script Approach:*
>> > The only other thing I could think of is to do this via an easy Bash 
>> > prompt to find the same files on the ssh machine. This might be 
>> > preposterous to those on the list that might want to use Elisp for 
>> > everything, but maybe its on a device where a Linux Bash terminal just is 
>> > present by default.
>> 
>> That /could/ be a solution.
>> 
>> > *"Just Log The Time Later" Approach:*
>> > You could always even just make org capture templates to estimate time 
>> > later too.
>> 
>> And I think this is the way to go.  Probably also use/write some very
>> simple time tracking app on the phone.
>> 
>> > *Summed Up:*
>> > The most sane approach in my opinion, is just use a computer that can 
>> > normally just use Emacs as-is. 
>> >
>> > Then again, this is coming from someone who respects the "Getting Things 
>> > Done" method a ton, but doesn't clock in every single personal task, 
>> > because I think its really unnecessary and tedious. I think this kind of 
>> > clocking ideas are better suited for work based todo lists if you're 
>> > trying to get things done for work or something.
>> 
>> I don't clock everything either, but there are some things that I do,
>> and that's why I want a reasonable mobile solution.
>> 
>> > I've seen the Android apps for Emacs Org Mode demo'd on YouTube, and it 
>> > looks clunky. Its nice for what it is, but yeah, I think Emacs overall is 
>> > just better suited for a laptop or desktop computer since you really need 
>> > to just use a keyboard to pull off most of the magic.
>> 
>> Of course.  I don't need Org editing etc. (well, maybe capture), just
>> the clocking.  That seems easy enough on mobile (UI-wise)..
>> 
>> > Good luck with this though,
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> -- 
>> Marcin Borkowski
>> http://mbork.pl
>> 


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Marcin Borkowski
http://mbork.pl

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