Thanks for trying! I'm just trying to find a flexible solution for
future requirements like this...
/PA
On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 at 09:54, Vangelis Evangelou <evange...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Perdo.
>
> No, that doesn't fix it. I can see that add-texparse-filter is added to the
> org-export-filter-final-output-functions, but the text doesn't appear in the
> exported *Org LATEX Export* buffer.
>
> On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 at 07:49, Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
> <paag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> PS: You can also add the code in your Emacs Lisp test code
>>
>> Sorry for the convoluted suggestion...
>> /PA
>>
>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 at 19:16, Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
>> <paag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Last try:
>> > put the following after the header and before the text in your buffer,
>> > evaluate the block (C-c C-c) and then export to a buffer C-c C-e l L
>> >
>> > --- cut here
>> > #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp :exports none :results none :eval export
>> > (defun add-texparse-filter (output backend info)
>> > "Disable TeX-parse-self."
>> > (when (eq backend 'latex)
>> > (concat output
>> > "\n"
>> > "%%% Local Variables:\n"
>> > "%%% TeX-parse-self: nil\n"
>> > "%%% End:\n" )))
>> >
>> > (make-variable-buffer-local 'org-export-filter-final-output-functions)
>> > (add-to-list 'org-export-filter-final-output-functions
>> > 'add-texparse-filter)
>> > #+END_SRC
>> > --- cut here
>> >
>> > This is a try to see if we can make the configuration of this
>> > workaround customisable.
>> >
>> > Best, /PA
>> >
>> > On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 at 14:12, Vangelis Evangelou <evange...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi Pedro.
>> > >
>> > > > This looks more like a side effect of using the auctex package
>> > >
>> > > I see. That makes sense. However, the function org-latex-export-as-latex
>> > > calls LaTeX-mode, which is an alias for ‘latex-mode’ in ‘tex-mode.el’
>> > > that comes with emacs. However, auctex defines its own LaTeX-mode. I
>> > > think org-latex-export-as-latex *intentionally* calls LaTeX-mode instead
>> > > of latex-mode to make use of auctex if that's available.
>> > >
>> > > > Just BTW, do you see the problem pop up when you C-c C-e l o?
>> > >
>> > > No, it doesn't happen in this case.
>> > >
>> > > > What about saving the exported LaTeX to a file and then opening the
>> > > > file in a separate buffer?
>> > >
>> > > I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean C-c C-e l l? In that case, the
>> > > problem doesn't happen after you open the file because the buffer is
>> > > associated with a file.
>> > >
>> > > > Wasn't it TeX-master that did this...
>> > >
>> > > Yes, TeX-master also specifies the master file. TeX-master is part of
>> > > auctex. reftex-TeX-master-file is part of reftex that does the same job.
>> > > reftex-TeX-master-file uses auctex, if installed, otherwise, it does its
>> > > own thing.
>> > >
>> > > > Anyhow, after reading the auctex documentation, could you please add
>> > > > the following at the beginning of your test document?
>> > >
>> > > There must be something wrong with your code because after I do export
>> > > and check org-export-filter-final-output-functions, I see nil. I also
>> > > get an error with that when I open the org file: "Local variables list
>> > > is not properly terminated"
>> > >
>> > > At the moment my workaround is
>> > > (use-package org
>> > > :config
>> > > (advice-add 'org-latex-export-as-latex :around
>> > > (lambda (fun &rest args)
>> > > (cl-letf (((symbol-function 'reftex-TeX-master-file)
>> > > (and (fboundp 'TeX-master-file)
>> > > (not (buffer-file-name))
>> > > #'(lambda (&rest _) "<none>"))))
>> > > (apply fun args)))))
>> > >
>> > > I think this is harmless as it temporarily overwrites
>> > > reftex-TeX-master-file if auctex is used and there is no file associated
>> > > with the buffer. In that case the return value is "<none>", which is
>> > > what TeX-master-file would return as well.
>> > >
>> > > As I said in my previous email, if TeX-parse-self is t, then emacs scans
>> > > for usepackage commands. Because the exported org file uses the amstex
>> > > package, there are some commands provided by that package that need
>> > > reftex, and so it runs reftex-TeX-master-file. However, reftex requires
>> > > a file, and so it results in an error. Temporarily changing the
>> > > behaviour of reftex-TeX-master-file should be OK.
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 at 07:06, Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
>> > > <paag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Hi
>> > >> Thx a lot for the explanation... answers inline
>> > >>
>> > >> On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 at 18:04, Vangelis Evangelou <evange...@gmail.com>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Hi Pedro.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > > I don't think this is a bug. It's more of a side effect ...
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I'm not sure what you are referring to. I assume that since the
>> > >> > program does not produce the intended output, then it's a bug.
>> > >> Well, IMHO, a bug is when your code doesn't produce the intended
>> > >> result standalone. This looks more like a side effect of using the
>> > >> auctex package, so people not using it will not be affected by it.
>> > >>
>> > >> Just BTW, do you see the problem pop up when you C-c C-e l o? What
>> > >> about saving the exported LaTeX to a file and then opening the file in
>> > >> a separate buffer?
>> > >>
>> > >> > > I'd like to understand what this reftex-TeX-master-file variable
>> > >> > > means and what the effect of TeX-parse-self is.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > TeX-parse-self instructs emacs to scan the tex file for the document
>> > >> > class, loaded packages and user-defined commands and make the
>> > >> > relevant commands available to the user. For example, the graphicx
>> > >> > package provides the command \includegraphics. Consider a file called
>> > >> > file.tex containing the following
>> > >> > =====================
>> > >> > \documentclass{article}
>> > >> > \usepackage{graphicx}
>> > >> > \begin{document}
>> > >> >
>> > >> > \end{document}
>> > >> > ====================
>> > >> > With TeX-parse-self set to t (see the code in my original email),
>> > >> > emacs will provide the commands from the article class and the
>> > >> > graphicx package. For example, if you type C-c RET and then type
>> > >> > includegraphics it will ask you a few questions about the image you
>> > >> > want to include in the document. With TeX-parse-self set to nil, it
>> > >> > doesn't know about the includegraphics command.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > reftex-TeX-master-file tells emacs which is the master file (so it
>> > >> > assumes that such a file exists). That is, the main file that
>> > >> > includes other files and needs to be compiled to produce a document.
>> > >> > So you might have, e.g., file1.tex and file2.tex with file1.tex being
>> > >> > the master file that includes file2.tex. So the master of file2 is
>> > >> > file1.
>> > >>
>> > >> I see... Wasn't it TeX-master
>> > >> (https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/reftex/Multifile-Documents.html)
>> > >> that did this...
>> > >>
>> > >> > > A workaround may be what you propose or to
>> > >> > > (setq-local TeX-parse-self nil)
>> > >> > > in your org-mode-hook. Could you try this, please?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > This does not solve the problem because it applies the setting to the
>> > >> > org buffer and not the exported latex buffer.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I should add that (setq TeX-parse-self t) is one of the recommended
>> > >> > settings by auctex https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/doc/auctex.html so I
>> > >> > believe others are affected by this issues, though I'm surprised it
>> > >> > hasn't been mentioned before.
>> > >>
>> > >> This is the source of my surprise too...
>> > >>
>> > >> Anyhow, after reading the auctex documentation, could you please add
>> > >> the following at the beginning of your test document?
>> > >>
>> > >> --- cut here
>> > >> #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp :exports none :results none :eval export
>> > >> (defun add-texmaster-filter (output backend info)
>> > >> "Add `%' to `\\end{minipage}' to allow side by side."
>> > >> (when (eq backend 'latex)
>> > >> (message "Adding TeX-master...")
>> > >> (string-replace "\\end{document}"
>> > >> "\\end{document}\n\n%%% Local Variables:\n%%%
>> > >> TeX-master: t\n%%% End:\n" output)))
>> > >>
>> > >> (make-variable-buffer-local 'org-export-filter-final-output-functions)
>> > >> (add-to-list 'org-export-filter-final-output-functions
>> > >> 'add-texmaster-filter)
>> > >> #+END_SRC
>> > >> --- cut here
>> > >>
>> > >> Best, /PA
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 at 06:17, Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
>> > >> > <paag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Hi Vangelis...
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Me and thinking?.. rather difficult... <LoL>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Now seriously...
>> > >> >> I don't think this is a bug. It's more of a side effect and I'd like
>> > >> >> to understand what this reftex-TeX-master-file variable means and
>> > >> >> what the effect of TeX-parse-self is.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> A workaround may be what you propose or to
>> > >> >> (setq-local TeX-parse-self nil)
>> > >> >> in your org-mode-hook. Could you try this, please?
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> IMvvHO, it would be more desirable approach, because you control your
>> > >> >> setup for the packages you use.
>> > >> >> org would just document this "special case" (maybe in the FAQ),
>> > >> >> instead of "bloating" the package itself.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> @Ihor WDYT?
>> > >> >> Best, /PA
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 at 18:31, Vangelis Evangelou
>> > >> >> <evange...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Hi Pedro.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > The export works as expected *without* loading auctex. It also
>> > >> >> > works as expected *with* loading auctex, but with TeX-parse-self
>> > >> >> > to nil. Perhaps the best solution is to amend
>> > >> >> > org-latex-export-as-latex to set TeX-parse-self to nil before
>> > >> >> > calling LaTeX-mode, e.g., with (let ((TeX-parse-self nil)) <rest
>> > >> >> > of the org-latex-export-as-latex code here>). To be honest, I'm
>> > >> >> > not sure if this is a bug of org or reftex-auc. What do you think?
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 at 16:41, Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
>> > >> >> > <paag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> Vangelis writes:
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> > Hello.
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > I started with emacs -q. Then in the scratch buffer, I
>> > >> >> >> > evaluated the
>> > >> >> >> > following code
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > (use-package reftex-auc)
>> > >> >> >> > (use-package tex
>> > >> >> >> > :load-path "site-lisp/auctex-14.0.9"
>> > >> >> >> > :custom
>> > >> >> >> > (TeX-parse-self t))
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > Then, I created an org buffer which I exported to latex buffer
>> > >> >> >> > (C-c C-e l
>> > >> >> >> > L). I get the error message
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > reftex-TeX-master-file: Wrong type argument: stringp, nil
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> Hi,
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> could you please try the export part again *without* loading
>> > >> >> >> auctex?
>> > >> >> >> It looks like the LaTeX exporter is not generating that thing,
>> > >> >> >> which I
>> > >> >> >> guess is a file local variable.
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> I remember never having time enough to procrastinate to cope with
>> > >> >> >> all
>> > >> >> >> the quirks of auctex while writing my PhD - some time ago ;-) -
>> > >> >> >> and
>> > >> >> >> going the "pure" LaTeX way with some yasnippets and a bit of code
>> > >> >> >> to
>> > >> >> >> emulate the couple of features people loved from auctex as a
>> > >> >> >> viable
>> > >> >> >> alternative.
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> Maybe that could be a project once the PDF exporter reaches
>> > >> >> >> master...
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> Thx, /PA
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> --
>> > >> >> >> Fragen sind nicht da, um beantwortet zu werden,
>> > >> >> >> Fragen sind da um gestellt zu werden
>> > >> >> >> Georg Kreisler
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> Sagen's Paradeiser, write BE!
>> > >> >> >> Year 1 of the New Koprocracy
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> --
>> > >> >> Fragen sind nicht da, um beantwortet zu werden,
>> > >> >> Fragen sind da um gestellt zu werden
>> > >> >> Georg Kreisler
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Sagen's Paradeiser, write BE!
>> > >> >> Year 1 of the New Koprocracy
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Fragen sind nicht da, um beantwortet zu werden,
>> > >> Fragen sind da um gestellt zu werden
>> > >> Georg Kreisler
>> > >>
>> > >> Sagen's Paradeiser, write BE!
>> > >> Year 1 of the New Koprocracy
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Fragen sind nicht da, um beantwortet zu werden,
>> > Fragen sind da um gestellt zu werden
>> > Georg Kreisler
>> >
>> > Sagen's Paradeiser, write BE!
>> > Year 1 of the New Koprocracy
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Fragen sind nicht da, um beantwortet zu werden,
>> Fragen sind da um gestellt zu werden
>> Georg Kreisler
>>
>> Sagen's Paradeiser, write BE!
>> Year 1 of the New Koprocracy
--
Fragen sind nicht da, um beantwortet zu werden,
Fragen sind da um gestellt zu werden
Georg Kreisler
Sagen's Paradeiser, write BE!
Year 1 of the New Koprocracy
