On 2026-04-06 11:26, Sébastien Hinderer wrote:
Many thanks for your response!
Actually, after I wrote the quesiton i managed to convince myself that
it was meaningless because the question coudl actually make sens only
for clients that were running inside of Emacs.
I find it so useful to capture links to messages.
1. With your solution the links contain the name of the folder where
the
message is stored. It's not that bad but I am still wondering whether
one couldn't use only the message id, which wold mean that the solution
would work even if the message is moved to a different folder. Of
course
that would require a kind of indexing to go frommessage ids to folders
but does that look completely undoable?
There are various solutions. I can suggest indexing:
$ dpkg -S /usr/bin/mu
maildir-utils: /usr/bin/mu
so you could install that one from https://www.djcbsoftware.nl/code/mu/
and it is normally a system package.
You would index your emails.
Another more fundamental issue is that it is best indexing e-mails in
Maildir format.
Also very fundamental, saving any incoming/outgoing e-mails for
[email protected] in ~/Maildir/[email protected]
That alone gives you possibility to make links straight to user's bunch
of e-mails to see any previous conversations.
Then it becomes also trivial to save/update message IDs by regular cron
job, so that all links to message ID work.
mutt-by-message-id.sh
"ca+omd9h_viu0k4m+k6mjzs2gczhuopcnqkf5kx-rtympiwx...@mail.gmail.com"
File path:
/home/data1/protected/Maildir/[email protected]/cur/1620819775.32017_9.protected:2,S
Folder: /home/data1/protected/Maildir/[email protected]
Message-ID:
ca+omd9h_viu0k4m+k6mjzs2gczhuopcnqkf5kx-rtympiwx...@mail.gmail.com
It works on my side.
So now you make Org link, something like mu:MESSAGE-ID and you will have
xterm opening with that message.
2. If I understand you correctly, the part that has to be different
when
done fromMutt as compared to when done from Emacs is the store link
stage, which is, if I understand you correctly, where your macro comes
in. But I think if oneis using Emacs in server mode then it should be
possible to call Org's store-link feature by running emacsclient, which
would make the link available to all the other running instances of
emacsclient.
Yes, is possible. Though this is discussion. Maybe you could define the
need and I can look into it.
3. A sllightly different topic is if one uses Org as a bookmark manager
and wnat to store into in links that are in message bodies, rather than
links tomessages themselves. But I assume the smae trick of invoking
org-store-link through emacsclient could work. HAs somebody already set
this up?
Official Message ID pattern for URLs is: mid
like
mid:CAMNq+4YWP3xSwZHunE2vgzaiupTrMgVbKBkd3NiGFsW=dyr...@mail.gmail.com
It means something like that should become link in any Emacs buffer when
goto-address-mode is enabled. It is thus better following that pattern
in org as well:
[[mid:CAMNq+4YWP3xSwZHunE2vgzaiupTrMgVbKBkd3NiGFsW=dyr...@mail.gmail.com][Email
about Boll Mills]]
and then it is better to use Org to open registered URI handlers for it:
goto-address-uri-schemes is a variable defined in ‘goto-addr.el’.
Its value is shown below.
List of URI schemes matched by ‘goto-address-url-regexp’.
Customizations to this variable made after goto-addr is loaded
will have no effect.
Value:
("hyperscope:" "aaa://" "about:" "acap://" "apt:" "bzr://"
"bzr+ssh://" "attachment:/" "chrome://" "cid:" "content://" "crid://"
"cvs://" "dav:" "dict://" "doi:" "dns:" "dtn:" "feed:" "file:/"
"finger://" "fish://" "ftp://"; "geo:" "git://" "go:" "gopher://";
"h323:" "http://"; "https://"; "im:" "imap://" "info:" "ipp:" "irc://"
"irc6://" "ircs://" "iris.beep:" "jar:" "ldap://"; "ldaps://"
"magnet:" "mid:" "mtqp://" "mupdate://" "news:"; "nfs://" "nntp://";
"opaquelocktoken:" "pop://" "pres:" "resource://" "rmi://" "rsync://"
"rtsp://" "rtspu://" "service:" "sftp://"; "sip:" "sips:" "smb://"
"sms:" "snmp://" "soap.beep://" "soap.beeps://" "ssh://" "svn://"
"svn+ssh://" "tag:" "tel:" "telnet://" "tftp://"; "tip://" "tn3270://"
"udp://" "urn:" "uuid:" "vemmi://" "webcal://" "xri://"
"xmlrpc.beep://" "xmlrpc.beeps://" "z39.50r://" "z39.50s://" "xmpp:"
"gemini://" "fax:" "man:" "mms://" "mmsh://" "modem:" "prospero:"
"snews:"; "wais://")
Above is my thinking -- as the functionality should be aligned. Links
for xmpp: defined in goto-address-uri-schemes should be automatically be
opened in Org by whatever Emacs user has defined. Not that users have
double definitions for standard URIs.
Here is something that works in Org:
Link:
[[mid:CAMNq+4YWP3xSwZHunE2vgzaiupTrMgVbKBkd3NiGFsW=dyr...@mail.gmail.com][Email
about Boll Mills]]
Function:
(org-link-set-parameters "mid" :follow #'goto-address-open-mid)
(defun goto-address-open-mid (msgid)
"Open email with MSGID using mutt-by-message-id.sh.
MSGID can be passed with or without 'mid:' prefix."
(let* ((clean-msgid (string-trim msgid "mid:" ""))
(script (expand-file-name "~/bin/rcd/mutt-by-message-id.sh"))
(escaped-msgid (shell-quote-argument clean-msgid)))
(if (file-exists-p script)
(start-process "mutt-open" nil "bash" "-c"
(format "%s %s" script escaped-msgid))
(message "Script not found: %s" script))))
Org settings:
(org-link-set-parameters "mid" :follow #'goto-address-open-mid)
Script is attached.
Path must be adjusted.
It works on my side. I click the link and mutt opens on that message ID.
--
Jean Louis#!/bin/bash
MESSAGE_ID="$1"
if [ -z "$MESSAGE_ID" ]; then
echo "Error: No Message-ID provided"
exit 1
fi
# Get the FULL file path
FILE_PATH=$(mu find msgid:"$MESSAGE_ID" --fields="l" 2>/dev/null | head -1)
if [ -z "$FILE_PATH" ]; then
echo "Message-ID not found: $MESSAGE_ID"
exit 0
fi
# Extract the maildir root (remove /cur/filename)
# From: /home/data1/protected/Maildir/[email protected]/cur/1620819775.32017_9.protected:2,S
# To: /home/data1/protected/Maildir/[email protected]
FOLDER=$(echo "$FILE_PATH" | sed 's|/cur/[^/]*$||')
ESCAPED_MSGID=$(echo "$MESSAGE_ID" | sed 's/=/\\=/g')
# Debug output to see what's happening
echo "File path: $FILE_PATH"
echo "Folder: $FOLDER"
echo "Message-ID: $MESSAGE_ID"
echo ""
# Open mutt
xterm -e bash -c "
mutt -f '$FOLDER' -e 'push \"<search>=i $ESCAPED_MSGID<enter><enter>\"'
echo 'Mutt exited. Press Enter to close...'
read
"
