Puneeth <puncha...@gmail.com> writes:
> It was a wonderful interview. Always a pleasure watching Carsten talk
> about org-mode.
Indeed -- thanks to those who could join!
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<J5_JHallgren> Web4292: kinda like comparing a kid with 2 hr of drivers
ed to a 30 yr prof truck driver maybe?
<Web4292> Did RandalSchwartz leave the chat or something?
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<RandalSchwartz> I'm here
<Ikon_w> none taken jacek; it was just so funny to hear the name again;
I used xenix 286, back in the day :)
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<Ikon_w> lol j-dog
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<jacek> Ikon_w them were the days ;-)
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<Web4292> RandalSchwartz, sorry I thought you left because you haven't
said much in a while.
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<xyz> floss me
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<RandalSchwartz> I was prep
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<troubled> RandalSchwartz: bah, emacs show. clearly you are trying to
put some bias into the vi vs. emacs numbers! ;)
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<jacek> Ikon_w I've seen a smuggled copy on a smuggled machine
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<xyz> ? again please
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<punchagan> hi all
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[18:33]<Ikon_w> that's OK troubled; vi & emacs both suck
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<troubled> ><
<cwbp> rage!
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<Ikon_w> lol
<Web4292> lkon_w, I don't know what vi or emacs even are.
<jacek> Ikon_w true, ed(1) rules
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[18:34]<cmpwi> troubled: One of the things I really like Emacs for is that it
allows me to run Vi inside it. =)
<cmpwi> troubled: Showed it to a friend that uses Vi the other day and
the only thing he had to say about it was "you're doing it wrong".
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<jacek> Web4292 it might be a good idea for you to join a local Linux
Users Group
[18:35]<Web4292> "Local" Linux Users Group? Local!?
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<cwbp> /usr/local/group
<jacek> cmpwi well, he was right, you are supposed to run Emacs from vi
<Ikon_w> jacek, he won't dnload & install Linux, and you expect him to
actually leave the house??? :)
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<jacek> Ikon_w yup, I believe in da man
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<Web4292> I can leave the house.
<iTech> What are they talking about?
<Ikon_w> lol jacek, you're kind of faith is a rare thing these days :)
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<bz_g> iTech: talking about Org-mode: http://orgmode.org
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<J5_JHallgren> Web4292: have you looked at this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randal_Schwartz before? thats who you're chattin
with
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<iTech> ok thx
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<jacek> Ikon_w he reminds me my younger self when I was trying to join
the Amiga Developer's program
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[18:39]<jacek> Ikon_w made a complete fool of myself
<Web4292> J5_JHallgren, I'll check it out.
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<jacek> Ikon_w just like Web4292 is doing today ;-)
[18:40]<jacek> BTW, Web4292 I know how you must feel. If you really don't know
who Randall is or don't want to do work and yet you want to try Linux, then
there's a couple of years of learning ahead of you
[18:41]<steveh> jacek: Knowing who Randal is isn't really a prereq for running
Linux.
<Web4292> When you say a couple, you mean like two or three or maybe
four?
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[18:42]<RandalSchwartz> of course I already knew the answer to that
<jacek> steveh true, but it never hurts to know who Randal is ;-)
[18:43]<steveh> well, it could hurt randal
<jacek> Web4292 one year of you will lock yourself in the house and
never leave or go to sleep, four if you wing it on free afternoons
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<urgen> ah oh, it came back
<Ikon_w> Web4292, if you listen to floss you might learn some Perls of
wisdom :)
<urgen> :\
[18:45]<Web4292> lkon_w, was that from RandalSchwartz wikipedia page? It says
that he writes a collum called that.
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<Ikon_w> I haven't looked at the wiki
<jacek> Ikon_w I think I might be loosing my faith after all...
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<Ikon_w> hehehe
[18:46]<Sullivan> jacek: why? is it too tight?
<Ikon_w> oh ye of little faith.....
<J5_JHallgren> i just used the wiki to quickly give some data about how
well known he is
<Web4292> lkon_w, scroll up on the chat to find the link
<steveh> I'm signed up for a hackathon on the weekend and I appear to be
the only one there who is going to be using Linux.
<randy_nacol2002> Ikon_w that could be a famous quote of the day ;)
<steveh> Strange.
<Ikon_w> I don't need the link; I've watched Randal for quite a while
[18:47]<jacek> steveh what are the other guys going to use?
<Ikon_w> macs
<punchagan> org tables rock!
<steveh> jacek: Windows and... *sigh* OSX
<Ikon_w> :)
<cwbp> ipads
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<steveh> Frankly, I don't think the mac users should be admitted.
<jacek> steveh slackers...
[18:48]<steveh> They're just going ask a lot of questions about how to open
their text editor and then trim their ironic moustaches.
<jacek> steveh what are you going to be hacking on?
<steveh> jacek: Has to do with garbage.
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<Web4292> steveh, I have a Mac Mini
<steveh> Web4292: Condolences
<Sullivan> http://theoatmeal.com/comics/apple
[18:49]<jacek> steveh garbage? then the other guys are using the right tools
<steveh> jacek: It's a web app that will allow people in London to get
sms reminders the night before the trash is due.
<jammerb> very cool!
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<Web4292> steveh, I found some way to get emacs on my Mac through the
Terminal but I forgot how to get it back.
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<steveh> type emacs
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<Web4292> thank you
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<jacek> steveh isn't it easier to vote Boris out of the office? ;-)
[18:50]<steveh> the garbage app should be fairly simple to write
<steveh> it's the data that's going to be the pain
[18:51]<steveh> the garbage dudes have yet to give us the data about how they
seperate the garbage zones in the city
<jacek> steveh I can imagine, I'm hacking on an Adroid app that will do
a lot of data back/forth with a server
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<Web4292> steveh,I typed emacs into Terminal now what can I do now?
[18:52]<steveh> type stuff
<steveh> then save it
<steveh> then reopen it
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<Dustin> or just drag emacs to the trash can where it belongs
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[18:53]<RandalSchwartz> I am watching this channel for questions
<wisewarrior> hi randal
<Chris_435> I still have an emac that the kids use.
<punchagan> how does something get into the contrib of emacs and then
move into the main source of org-mode?
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<jacek> RandalSchwartz is it possible to get ePub and LaTeX out that
puppy?
<Web4292> steveh, how do I save in Terminal, I can't find Save under the
file menu.
<RandalSchwartz> he just said that yes
[18:54]<Web4292> Steveh, I meant Shell menu
<jacek> RandalSchwartz I might try Emacs again then... haven't done so
in like 20 years, but I just might do it
[18:55]<troubled> jacek: whats the worst that can happen? you get RSI from all
their meta key combos? :)
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<jacek> troubled I'm afraid I get lost in a dark one-way alley with
Eliza mode on
[18:56]<Ikon_w> lol
<troubled> heh
<jammerb> like a kitchen sink :-)
<Ikon_w> y0u have been eaten by a grue
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<troubled> Ikon_w: heh
<bz_g> Stats of Org-mode mailing list:
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-mailing-list.php#sec-3
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[18:57]<bz_g> The Community documentation is here: http://orgmode.org/worg/
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<jacek> on a serious note, if I found a tool that lets me write once and
publish in many formats, I'd die a happy man
<wisewarrior> Q: How many surrealists does it take to change a light
bulb? A: Two--one to hold the giraffe, and the other to fill the bathtub with
brightly colored machine tools.
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<punchagan> RandalSchwartz: with such a huge user base, do you think
having a "meet-up" or event where all the Org-ers come together would be good?
possible to happen sometime soon?
<RandalSchwartz> good question
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<wisewarrior> i used emacs in school a little last year,
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/index.html
<jacek> I checked Org Babel... pity there's no Lout, Objective-C or Java
support...
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<jacek> and no Lua...
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<bz_g> punchagan: I think that would be *great*. Not sure how hard it
would be to organize though.
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<punchagan> RandalSchwartz: do you use GTD? how do you integrate stuff
that you get done or are reminded of, when you are not in front of your emacs
terminal.
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<Web4292> I've heard of Lua. That was used to create Lightroom from
Adobe, I think.
<RandalSchwartz> Iu use omnifocus
[19:03]<punchagan> bz_g: yes. we are all over the world. :)
<jacek> I use omnifocus and evernote
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<jacek> Web4292 Lua is very popular in the game dev communities
[19:04]<Web4292> jacek, does that mean that I might have a PS3 game that was
developed with the use of Lua scripting?
<jacek> Web4292 could be
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<Web4292> Is Lua open source?
<jacek> RandalSchwartz have you tried TaskPaper? There is a Vim mode...
<jacek> Web4292 sure is http://www.lua.org/
<bz_g> About planning: Org also exports to TaskJuggler :
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-taskjuggler.php
<jacek> and ther is a Mac OS X app called TaskPaper
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<punchagan> yes. emacs mailing list rocks!
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<jacek> RMS got involved? Ouch!
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[19:07]<wisewarrior> Richard Stallman's Personal Home Page
http://stallman.org/
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<wisewarrior> this is a little
odd..http://stallman.org/photos/rms-working/pages/33.html
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<bz_g> Big secret: I'm working on a Org<->patchwork interface...
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<jacek> RandalSchwartz are using MobileMe to sync OmniFocus or your own
WebDAV server?
<punchagan> bz_g: awesome.
ERC> /whois punchagan
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[19:10]* punchagan loves the org-mode community too!
<Web4292> jacek, you just said a bunch of stuff to make my head nearly
explode.
<madalu> bz_g: wow. looking forward to that.
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<jacek> Web4292 sorry about that, didn't mean to hurt ya
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<Web4292> That's OK, I'm using emacs as kind of like a notepad to write
this stuff down to look it up later. Also, where is the file menu? I only see
Shell
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<bz_g> Good idea: check the Donate button on http://orgmode.org :)
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<rorx> Emacs is an environment.
<punchagan> :)
<KevinH|work> leofan, please change your nickname to something that does
not contain a hosts name or show name, as to not cause confusion, you can
either refresh your browser or type /nick NEWNAME to do it. thanks
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<jacek> they meet in emacs ;-)
<jacek> meet mode on
<jacek> ;-)
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<bz_g> Actually we have had two or three informal small meetings with
Orgers in France during the last months.
<troubled> lol
<rorx> haha
* troubled cries foul!
<rorx> yep emacs is so much more.
<urlwallace> troubled! hi!
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<troubled> url!
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<urlwallace> (:
<jacek> I admire those who use Emacs
[19:17]<jacek> I honestly do
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<punchagan> yay! Carsten! thanks for the wonderful org-mode!
<bz_g> indeed - thanks!
<jacek> Carsten, thanks!
<JasonMasque13> awesome project
<madalu> Many many thanks!
[19:18]<jacek> I will recommed Org mode to a couple of my Emacs-loving frineds
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<cmpwi> Thanks
<punchagan> thanks RandalSchwartz for the great interview!
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<urlwallace> thanks RandalSchwartz
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<jacek> yes! Bring Jono back!
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<wisewarrior> yay randal
[19:22]<Andrewccm> Loving the new twit pad app!
ERC>
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