Hi Sebastian,

4 minutes of startup time is entirely unacceptable.  And I think
you need to identify what is causing this.

First of all, unless you are having to totally old Version of Emacs,
fontification at display time is standard, I believe.

You must be doing something strange, like forcing Emacs to load
all those files in org-agenda-files for example, and maybe forcing global
fontification for each file or so.

About a separate variable for search file, that does of cause exist:
org-agenda-text-search-extra-files

- Carsten


On Sep 28, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Sébastien Vauban wrote:

Hi,

Of course, I have many, many files in Org mode. All files I write (or touch)
in fact.

Of course, I would like to search through my files at some point in time. I even would like to search through your files at some point in time, I mean
through =org-mode/contrib/babel= and =Worg= for example.

Hence, I put them in =org-agenda-files=:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
;; set which files to search for TODO entries and scheduled items
;; (avoiding hidden files)
(setq org-agenda-files
     (append (directory-files org-directory t "^[^\\.].*\\.org$")
             (if (file-exists-p "~/Projects/")
                 (directory-files "~/Projects/" t "^[^\\.].*\\.org$")
               nil)
             (if (file-exists-p "~/Public/")
                 (directory-files "~/Public/" t "^[^\\.].*\\.txt$")
               nil)
(if (file-exists-p "~/Public/www.mygooglest.com/source/sva/ ") (directory-files "~/Public/www.mygooglest.com/source/sva/ " t "^[^\\.].*\\.txt$")
               nil)
             (if (file-exists-p "~/Examples/Org-scraps/")
(directory-files "~/Examples/Org-scraps/" t "^[^\ \.].*\\.txt$")
               nil)
(if (file-exists-p "~/Downloads/emacs/site-lisp/org- mode/contrib/babel/") (directory-files "~/Downloads/emacs/site-lisp/org- mode/contrib/babel/" t "^[^\\.].*\\.org$")
               nil)
             (if (file-exists-p "~/Downloads/emacs/site-lisp/Worg/")
(directory-files "~/Downloads/emacs/site-lisp/ Worg/" t "^[^\\.].*\\.org$")
               nil)
             ))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

The problem is the load-time of my Emacs, now:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
Emacs Init startup time: 221 seconds.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

coming from 20 seconds before the heavy use of Org...

with tens of times such lines in my *Messages* buffer:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
OVERVIEW
Checking for library `filladapt'...
+-> Requiring `filladapt' (already loaded)
Checking for library `filladapt'... Found
Fontifying Axa.org... (regexps............................................)
Checking for library `filladapt'... Found
Fontifying Axa.org... (regexps.............................................)
Checking for library `filladapt'... Found
Fontifying Axa.org... (regexps..............................................)
Checking for library `filladapt'... Found
+-> Requiring `outline-mode-easy-bindings' (already loaded)
+-> Requiring `ispell' (already loaded)
Evaluate code AFTER HAVING LOADED `flyspell'... [2 times]
Starting new Ispell process [en_US] ...
Checking for library `filladapt'...
+-> Requiring `filladapt' (already loaded)
Checking for library `filladapt'... Found
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

You'll tell me: not a problem, you do that only once a day, and you use Emacs client/server for the rest of the time. True. A bit, because I sometimes have to restart Emacs for testing a fresh one (not impacted by defvars already
defined, or deffaces, etc.).

Having to wait almost 4 minutes is a real pain. So, here my
comments/questions:

- Isn't it possible to delay the fontification/ispell/etc. to when we really display (i.e., pop up) the buffer? I guess this must be a major component
 of the time this takes.

- Couldn't we have 2 vars: =org-agenda-files= for the files you know you want
 have scanned for the agenda construction, and an extra list such as
=org-search-files= for files not containing any dates? Then, some time would have to be taken when =C-c a s=, but not before. And not if you don't
 search for anything in your Org files during that Emacs session...

Any other idea?

Best regards,
 Seb

--
Sébastien Vauban


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