As Yihui was following up to an email of mine about Org mode on the ESS (emacs speaks statistics list), I will email him to find out if I can see what issues he had. For the record: I also found learning Org mode quite challenging, and I consider myself a diehard Emacs person. I guess if you were to ask me what I found difficult, was that it was quite overwhelming knowing where to start. (So I started small by learning the agenda features...)
Stephen Michael Hannon <jm_han...@yahoo.com> writes: > Bastien <b...@gnu.org> wrote: > >>Michael Hannon <jm_han...@yahoo.com> writes: >> >>> Hi, folks. Just FYI: >>> >>> ----- Forwarded Message ----- >>>>From: Yihui Xie <x...@yihui.name> >>>>To: Stephen Eglen <s.j.eg...@damtp.cam.ac.uk> >>>>Cc: ess-h...@r-project.org >>>>Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 3:08 PM >>>>Subject: Re: [ESS] knitr >>>> >>>>There is no point comparing markdown with org mode, and the answer >>>>will be definitely this: org mode can beat markdown almost everywhere; >>>>they are not even comparable. The point is that markdown was not >>>>designed to provide new features; it was designed to be simple so it >>>>intentionally discarded lots of features and people can learn it >>>>quickly. I have tried a few times to learn org mode, and it is just >>>>too complicated for me. >> >> Well, it all boils down to disambiguate what "learning Org" means. >> > >> It is hard to say just from the message above. If you can, please redirect >> the OP to this list so that he feels guided in tasks he wants to do with >> Org. > > Hi, Bastien. I don't know this guy, but I don't think he's *trying* to learn > Org mode at this point. He seems to be a very capable guy: > > http://yihui.name/ > > and is evidently the author of the R package "knitr" for literate programming. > > I was just struck by the fact that a person of his evident ability would give > up on Org mode. I can't say it has been all that easy for me to use Org mode, > and I'm sure there are Avogadro's number of things I still don't know about > it, but I've never viewed it is being *that* difficult. Probably I've been > spoiled by all the help I've gotten from this enormously useful list. > > There's no real action item for anybody here. I speculate that this guy might > just have had more fun writing his own package than in learning somebody > else's. But I don't see how it could hurt for the Org-mode community to keep > an eye out for usability issues. > > -- Mike