Thanks, Tom.
I see that indeed the functionality is there.
But I still find the speed keys much less awkward than
giving a numeric argument.
For instance, my gtd file as around 100 level 2 headings that I wish to
navigate
and they are grouped across 5 level 1 headings.
I can jump from the middle of one group to another with
"1hh2n".
With numeric arguments this would be:
"C-1 S-TAB C-p C-p C-2 S-TAB C-n".
With speed bindings, I'm not even moving my fingers - I just have
the left hand on "123" and the right hand on "hn".
Anyway, to each his own:)
regards,
Oleh
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:35 AM, Tom Davey <tda...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Olen writes:
>
> > Level 2 is very useful - and cannot, unlike Level 1, be reached by S-TAB.
>
> Actually, it can. S-TAB takes a numeric prefix key. The doc string says:
>
> "When ARG is a numeric prefix, show contents of this level."
>
> So, you can directly open or close the outline to _any_ desired level "N"
> with C-N S-TAB. I find that feature to be incredibly handy. It encourages
> me to nest my outlines as deeply as I wish.
>
> Here's a little navigation utility I wrote to take advantage of S-TAB's
> ability. Sometimes I'll want to collapse the outline to the level at point
> in order, say, to clean things up by closing all lower levels. However,
> it's not always obvious to me what level I'm on. And without knowing what
> level I'm on, I can't hit the right numeric prefix for S-TAB. The following
> utility does it all automagically by passing the result of
> org-outline-level() to S-TAB. C-S-TAB is a logical binding for this
> function.
>
> (defun open-org-outline-to-current-level ()
> "Opens or closes the Orgmode outline to the level at point."
> (interactive)
> (org-shifttab (org-outline-level))
> (message "The current outline level is %s." (org-outline-level)))
>
> Regards,
> Tom Davey
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Oleh <ohwoeo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Carsten Dominik
>> <carsten.domi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > On 23.7.2013, at 15:48, Oleh <ohwoeo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> I've recently started using `org-use-speed-commands', and I like it a
>> lot,
>> >> except I had to make one tweak:
>> >>
>> >> (setq org-use-speed-commands t)
>> >> (setq org-speed-commands-user
>> >> '(("1" . (org-shifttab 1))
>> >> ("2" . (org-shifttab 2))
>> >> ("3" . (org-shifttab 3))))
>> >>
>> >> The corresponding values of `org-speed-commands-default' aren't that
>> useful
>> >> for GTD:
>> >>
>> >> ("1" org-priority 65)
>> >> ("2" org-priority 66)
>> >> ("3" org-priority 67)
>> >
>> > That depends on wether you work with priorities. I find S-TAB easy
>> enough, so I do not
>> > really see the need for speed commands here.
>>
>> Maybe I should elaborate my point of view on the usability.
>> Priorities don't normally need "buttons" to jump between states,
>> a "knob" is enough: only increase/decrease priority, not jump to priority
>> 1,
>> jump to priority 2 etc.
>>
>> Outlines, on the other hand, can benefit from the ability to jump between
>> the levels of expansion.
>>
>> Level 1 is very useful - it minimizes everything, showing the
>> structure of the file. S-TAB is useful and simple, but you have to
>> repeat several times,
>> checking each time if it has brought you to the level that you wanted to
>> be on.
>>
>> Level 2 is very useful - and cannot, unlike Level 1, be reached by S-TAB.
>> For my gtd.org, it shows the tasks and appointments, without expanding
>> them, as well as the project names, but not what they contain.
>> This gives a nice overview of my projects.
>>
>> Level 3 is very useful - and cannot be reached by S-TAB.
>> It shows me the separate TODOs for my projects, without revealing my
>> notes on them, just the headings.
>> I even bound the rest of the digits to levels and it is useful sometimes.
>>
>> In my opinion, these shortcuts make org-mode a better outlining tool,
>> and should be given priority before the priority shortcuts.
>>
>> Slightly off-topic, these type of shortcuts is why I use Ubuntu Unity (I
>> think
>> I managed to turn off the spying). It's got a feature that Super+1-9
>> switches between applications in the sidebar slots 1-9. Sure, it's
>> possible to do with Alt-TAB, and that's what most other desktops do,
>> but Super+1-9 is superior, since you don't have to wait for feedback,
>> you instantly get what you want.
>>
>> regards,
>> Oleh
>>
>>
>
>
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