hi bastien, thanks for revisiting this.
i cannot do thorough bug reports at this time, but there are a few undo-related issues in org-mode now. here are a few from memory [there are others]: - occasional buffer or undo-tree corruption from c-c ' [see previous posts in this thread] - disruptive and surprising combining of undo entries when doing agenda operations where you can't undo properly - buffer corruption without c-c ' typical example of last one: === * bastien #+begin_src org bastien ^bastien #+end_src * bastien === put point at ^, fill-paragraph, undo. with undo-tree, at least, the buffer will be corrupted. === often there is no way to fix the buffer corruption. undo is after all a way to fix things. so i'm particularly sensitive to it not working. if org did not touch undo internal features, then i think undo would be more trustworthy. this is what i prefer as a user. i think not touching undo internals is the safer, more defensive strategy. === one thing org sometimes does is try to set buffer-undo-list. it's really for speed imo. i can't think of any reason why org really needs it. perhaps i am mistaken and there is a really good reason for such things, but i suspect it has caused a lot of bugs. in the case of c-c ', i would prefer having the indentation adding show up as an undo entry [or whatever would happen if we ripped out the undo-related setting]. separating the undo of the base and indirect buffers leads to surprises. i expect undo to just work in both places and not to undo things that i did not edit last. even when there is not a bug per se, when you edit a source block, there is a gap in the undo record. like nixon's tape gap during watergate, it raises questions. :/ === to me, undo is a low-level feature that should never be buggy or surprising. if it is, then anything that causes those should be ripped out, even if it means losing a fancy undo-related feature. for me, the best undo feature of all is reliability. :] samuel On 3/18/14, Bastien <b...@gnu.org> wrote: > Hi Samuel, > > Samuel Wales <samolog...@gmail.com> writes: > >> as far as i know, my assessment below is correct, but i cannot >> confirm. > > I revisited this thread. > >> i believe that if undo-related code is ripped out of babel, then undo >> will work correctly in the source buffer and in the edit buffer. >> i am not clear on what the purpose of changing undo behavior is? > > Time flies: maybe it was clear before, but for now undo works fine > for me, in the source editing buffer and in the original buffer too. > > When I do C-c ' from the *Org Src* buffer, then C-/, the buffer is > restored to its previous state, that is: before the insertion of the > edited source. > > Can you restate what the bug is? > > Thanks, > > -- > Bastien > -- The Kafka Pandemic: http://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com The disease DOES progress. MANY people have died from it. And ANYBODY can get it. Denmark: free Karina Hansen NOW.