sorry, premature send!

On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 8:36 AM, John Kitchin <jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu>wrote:

> Thanks for the feedback. I moved the key-bindings for f10-12 out of
> org-ref.
>
>
> On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 6:01 AM, Eric S Fraga <e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> John,
>>
>> I've been playing with the package although, so far, only for
>> citations.  A few points:
>>
>> 1. Do you have any support for choosing the type of citation entry
>>      (i.e. \cite versus \autocite versus ...) when inserting a
>>      citation in the text?
>>
>
> Not at the moment. There are a few ways I can see doing this. With the
> existing code, you can do M-x reftex-citation, select the format you want
> and select the references. We could easily enough define additional formats
> for other citation types. I found this way of inserting citations annoying,
> because 99.99% of the time I want a simple cite link, and pressing  C-c ]
> return regexp marking return was too much for me (I cite a lot). I also
> found this method was not flexible, in the sense that it was not easy to
> add citations to an existing citation. That is why there is an ?a option to
> append citations in the code.
>

an alternative would be to use a prefix command that gave you an option to
change the cite format, similar to the minibuffer menu for cite links. I
have not written much prefix code before, but I will try that out.


>
>
>>
>> 2. You define org-link-types.  Unfortunately, this overwrites my own
>>      definitions, especially for "cite".  I wonder whether this type
>>      of customisation belongs in org-ref itself.  This is similar to
>>      my earlier comment about key bindings, I guess.
>>
>
In the end, the link definitions can be as short as this:

#+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp :tangle org-ref.el
(org-add-link-type
 "cite"
 'org-ref-cite-onclick-minibuffer-menu
 'org-ref-cite-link-format)
#+END_SRC

I wrote this for my research group to use, and eventually the links have to
be defined somewhere. I am not sure what the best place would be. It is an
interesting issue of reproducibility though. Two people with different link
definitions would get different results.


>> 3. I sometimes use biblatex instead of bibtex.  As a result, I do not
>>      use \bibliography and use \addbibresource instead.  I have
>>      defined my bibliography files in org-ref-default-bibliography but
>>      this is only picked up on initialisation.  It is difficult to
>>      update this for a document in progress (I had to locally set
>>      reftex-default-bibliography manually).
>>
>
It should be easy enough to make an addbibresource link that does the same
thing as the bibliography link. And maybe to modify the find-bibliography
code to check for that too. I have never used biblatex though, so I dont
have any experience with it.


>
>> 4. The customisation interface for org-ref-default-bibliography should be
>>      list aware...
>>
>
I think I fixed this.


>
>> Otherwise, seems to working just fine.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> eric
>>
>> --
>> : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.4.50.2, Org
>> release_8.2.6-923-g233c11
>>
>
>

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