On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Caio Chassot <[email protected]> wrote:
> Rely on email ≠ rely on exotic IMAP extensions.
>
> But as you mentioned yourself, it's a draft. No point in reading too much out
> of every word.
You're confusing John's argument with mine, albeit they arrive at the
same conclusion. Less != Better. Less == 2001. This is 2010.
There's going to have to be damned good reasons for me to ditch my
existing mail setup in favor of this. I'm not maintaining two clients
while you work the kinks out of 1.0 and get a 2.0 release out. I
won't be alone there. When you start lobotomizing an app that doesn't
exist yet, in the name of some phantom performance or usability
requirement ("lean") you're really just lobotomizing your user base.
> Can I say just one word? Stationaries.
If that really is the biggest qualm you have with Mail.app i have one
word for you: Lame. Stationaries doesn't make Mail fat. Nor does the
inclusion of POP and Exchange (via EWS) support. Nor does integrated
LDAP lookups. Nor HTML Support.
I can buy that message/reply Quoting could use some work. And its
rule capabilities leaves something to be desired. I can buy any
number of ISSUES with Mail.app. The one thing I don't understand is
how it can be called "bloated," especially in the company of (no
offense John) Entourage, Outlook.
> I'd wager this is programmer land: MySQL, Apache, PHP
>
> (Not because you have to be a programmer to use, but because programmers have
> to put up with databases and web servers, so it's in their best interest to
> make them fucking work.)
2/3 of the programmers I know don't know how to configure their
wireless router properly. Spend some time in the real world. While I
can applaud the supposed breadth of knowledge you might display, given
the opportunity, even in my limited experience in IT, programmers know
code, particularly the code that they themselves write. They don't
know IT. Trust me, i see proof of this EVERY DAY when I have to
circumvent, hack, patch, or otherwise pummel some stupid ass Windows
app into obeying Microsoft's own conventions so that it can be
deployed to 2000 XP clients and behave the same on every one of them.
There's a reason I'm a Mac geek.
> I'd say most professional programmers haven't coded C or ObjC in their life.
I pity those who didn't learn in C (myself included on that list). If
they have a Computer Science degree worth the paper its printed on I
sure as hell hope they didn't learn on Java.
-nick
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Nick Peelman
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