Hi Neville and all: First, I decided to take a look at Network Utility too but when I tried clicking on its icon in my Laptop's finder, it just did a little piff action and did not open. I tried looking inside the package but found no app to open there. So I checked Network Utility on my desktop (both running 10.4.8) and it opened into a set of windows which I recognized - I would imagine that I have investigated previously and I would guess I would have done so on my laptop.
Why would it not open on my laptop and is there a way I can force it to? (Dump pref file?) Oddly enough the "Network Utility.nib" on my laptop is in an open folder but on my desktop it is a package. Secondly, when I did finally ping my ISP's smtp info, domain name or server address, I got 100% packet loss. Did I do something wrong? Thanks for any help and, It's been great to hear from everyone lately! Tannis ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe send a mail message with a SUBJECT line of "unsubscribe" to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> or <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

