I do not often Copy an entire Digest, but in this case I will, because
it carries the "spirit" that typified the Emailer user, and that of the
most recent "Real Friend" to the remaining users:   Chris Bartlett....
who seems to have unending patience with those of us who still
use Emailer.

Only lately have I tried to figure out how best to "switch horses".
I do receive messages in Mail, of course,  but I have a large file of
Emailer folders and backlog of messages which I don't want to
immediately jettison.  (Hah !  Immediately .!!! Some of the messages
thereon have been around for five or more years.... and yet, like the
old books in the community library.... it's comforting to know they're
there.

So, with the Emailer "crowd" dwindling,  I add my thanks to those
of others.... sent to Chris.   Chris has been a real friend to us who
use Emailer.

Your understanding and patience, Chris, AND knowledge, enable us to
thwart the evil powers out there which try to make us believe there
is no life left in Emailer.

Not so... for me, at least.  But who knows what tomorrow may
bring when I complete my entry into the land of Tiger.... yes Tiger.
(I cannot imagine meeting Leopard face-to-face... Not yet !!!    )


Sheafe Ewing



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>emailer-digest Digest                          Volume 2008 : Issue 28
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>Today's Topics:
>  Re: Stumped                           [ cb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>  unsubscribe                           [ "Don Jackson"
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>  HD quality/was Re: Stumped            [ "H. Halverson"
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>  Re: HD quality/was Re: Stumped        [ cb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>  Re: HD quality (plus a little Stumpe  [ Tannis Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>  Re: HD quality (plus a little Stumpe  [ Bill McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>  Good to see the list still active     [ cpkh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
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>Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:10:53 -0400
>From: cb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Stumped
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>On Sep 21, 2008, at 9:23 PM, Bill McIntyre wrote:
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>> I've never tried to repair anything since going to OSX, and I'm
>> reluctant to mess with something that ain't broke in any way that I
>> can notice. It appears that my problem is "incorrect number of
>> Extended Attributes."
>>
>> I don't even know what an extended attribute is. Is it serious?
>> Should I boot off of the install disk and repair? Is there any way
>> to screw that up?
>
>
>Yes, boot from another disk and run Repair in Disk Utility. Or use
>your favorite disk repair tool (Tech Tool, Disk Warrior, etc).
>
>Another option, and something that you may want to install anyway, is
>to use AppleJack. You install AppleJack and then you can reboot into
>single user mode (Command-S at boot), and once in single user, run
>AppleJack and it does a bunch of maintenance tasks for you. Avoids
>the need for a bootable CD to run Disk Utility's repair feature.
>
>-chris
><www.mythtech.net>
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>Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 03:41:33 -0700
>From: "Don Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: unsubscribe
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>--
>Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
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>Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:52:22 -0700
>From: "H. Halverson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: HD quality/was Re: Stumped
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>
>(snip)
>>So if you have bad ones on a brand new drive, hopefully it is just
>>the drive maker has crappy quality control and isn't testing them (is
>>this a Western Digital or Maxtor drive?) but it could be a sign of a
>>defective drive as well. (Its a shame that Seagate bought Maxtor, I'd
>>like to say it will bring up the quality of Maxtor, but that never
>>happens, instead I'm sure it will bring down the quality of Seagate).
>(snip)
>
>What drive manufacturer makes good drives?
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>
>cYa
>Hib Halverson •
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>Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:46:03 -0400
>From: cb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: HD quality/was Re: Stumped
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>On Sep 22, 2008, at 10:52 AM, H. Halverson wrote:
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>> What drive manufacturer makes good drives?
>
>
>Is None a valid response?
>
>At this point, it isn't so much who makes a good drive as it is who
>makes a less sucky drive. Western Digital and Maxtor are both
>consumer/commodity drives. Their quality control is lower, but that
>is directly related to their price per gb being lower.
>
>In the end, buy whatever drive you can afford and expect that any
>drive you buy may be dead in 5 years time. Then keep good regular
>backups and spend your time and money worrying about something that
>you can actually control.
>
>(Personally, I think Seagate makes reliable drives, as does
>Fujitsu... that said, I buy Western Digital and Maxtor drives on a
>regular basis because they are almost always a good bit cheaper than
>everyone else.... although I have stopped buying the Western Digital
>MyBook series of drives as I've had several that have either totally
>died soon after purchase, or worse, have flakey performance and end
>up locking up the entire firewire bus.... I've not had similar
>problems with the Maxtor external USB2/Firewire drives, so far those
>have all been fine, but with Maxtor, I know that I will only get 3-5
>years life out of the drive before it develops regular bad blocks and/
>or totally dies).
>
>-chris
><www.mythtech.net>
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>Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:09:46 -0400
>From: Tannis Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: HD quality (plus a little Stumped continuation)
>
>
>Well, I am in the midst of transferring over User files from my (Seagate)
>external to my brand new Western Digital internal - which so far (knock
>on my noggen) seems to be operating properly.
>
>The faulty one that was removed was a Seagate. But my friendly Apple guy
>thought it was most likely a firmware problem as opposed to a hardware
>problem - which is why he installed another brand.
>
>Make sense to you?
>
>BTW, Migration Assistant didn't even recognize the Desktop folder (on its
>own partition) - I guess because it didn't contain system files?
>
>So I am booted into Laptop and using its copy of Super Duper to copy
>files over. Simply dragging the files over didn't work (as usual) due to
>incomplete file permissions.
>
>Thanks again for always being willing to share your knowledge!
>
>Tannis
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>Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:16:36 -0700
>From: Bill McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: HD quality (plus a little Stumped continuation)
>
>
>Since the list is not exactly busy with actual CE stuff, I hope not
>too many of you will be offended if I pass along something that it
>took me all day to learn.
>
>When I ran Disk Utility, it revealed a few problems, but Disk Utility
>was not able to fix them. Chris suggested that I try Applejack, a
>free program, before investing in Tech Tool or Diskwarrior. Sure
>enough, Applejack fixed the problems, but from the time it launched,
>my iMacG5's fan ran like a 747 running up the engines for takeoff. I
>guess that was normal, but then the fan continued to run after I
>restarted, and no matter how many times I shut down and restarted, it
>kept blowing.
>
>Finally, on macosxhint.com I found a post with a suggested solution.
>I just unplugged the power cord for a few minutes and then plugged it
>back in. When I started again, everything was back to normal.
>
>Just in case anyone else tried Applejack, I wanted to pass this along.
>
>I think I'll still get Diskwarrior. Its just that ever since I went
>to OSX, things have run so smooth that I've never felt the need as I
>did in the past.
>
>
>Bill McIntyre
>San Clemente, CA
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>Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:28:47 +0900
>From: cpkh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Good to see the list still active
>
>
>What a joy to again see the emailer digest in my mail box.
>
>I am so grateful to all who, over many years, have made such valuable
>contributions to this list, ESPECIALLY TO CHRIS.
>
>I still use emailer in a way.
>
>Having moved to Leopard, not being able to use classic and emailer,
>was almost a reason not to upgrade. However use the mail application
>in Leopard, but leave messages on the server. On an older machine,
>using OS 9, have emailer set to remove from server. Any email that
>looks suspicious, I check with emailer before opening or discarding.
>May sound complicated and over cautious, but am amazed at how many of
>my friends who use windows ask if they can forward a suspicious email
>for me to check.
>
>To all on the list, and the few of us old enough (or young enough in
>body and/or heart) to remember it, thank you.
>
>Keith
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