On Oct 5, 2008, at 5:23 PM, T C Baker wrote:

But I used to have CE accounts set up for each of my gmail addresses -
which I use for different things.

So, when sending mail to, for instance, the CE list, I would use my
[EMAIL PROTECTED] account to send.

I'm going to guess your old ISP didn't require SMTP Authentication and you simply had your old ISP mail server set as the outgoing mail server for your gmail account in Emailer. That would have worked fine for sending.

You mentioned you are now using the P3 version to get SMTP Auth. With that, you can not use the SMTP server from one host with the POP account settings from another. The P3 version uses the POP username and password to authenticate to the SMTP server. So you would have to setup a 2nd ISP account in Emailer, but change the Email Address field (not Email Account field) to your gmail address. Then the P3 version will send via your ISP mail server, authenticate with your ISP pop username and password, but include the gmail address as the return address in the email itself.

Or, just move to a mail client that doesn't make you go thru this nonsense.

My new ISP absolutely cannot use SSL. The tech guy made me uncheck it
for both outgoing and incoming in Mail.


What your ISP wants only matters for their mail servers. If you are trying to use Gmails, then turn on SSL.

<http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13275&topic=12917>

That link will take you to GMail's setup directions for Apple Mail 3.0. The same directions work for Mail 2.x although the screen shots may be slightly different (I have two Gmail accounts setup on this computer and I'm currently running whatever Mail 2.x version is on OS X 10.4.11)

If you are saying above that your new ISP doesn't allow SSL traffic across their network, run away from them as fast as you can. SSL is the heart of secure communications, such as banking websites. If you can't do SSL traffic on their network, you can't do anything secure. And I can't believe that is really what they are saying. Rather they are saying their mail server's don't support SSL, which is fine because you aren't going to be sending your gmail mail via their mail server, you are going to send it via the gmail mail server when you use Apple's Mail.

Although, in Apple's mail, you can mix and match inbound and outbound servers. So you can setup to receive Gmail in Mail, and then set the outbound mail server to use your ISP. In Mail, you can specify the username and password to use with the SMTP server and those need not be the same as being used on the POP server as Emailer P3 version requires.


-chris
<www.mythtech.net>


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